The Air Rifles & Pistols thread

I'd say the top one because of the plastic shine to the front lower section. However, it really shows how difficult it is to distinguish a toy for a deadly weapon.
 
HybridX said:
Nope not the case.
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Are you sure? I wouldn't like to test it

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I've answered this question a dozen (if not more) times.

The simple answer is: Maybe.

You are allowed to control certain birds (Not game/wildfowl which are kept under a different act) that allows you to shoot certain birds if conditions are met.

The reasons for doing so are:
(Wildlife and countryside act 1982, F39/3)

(a)preserving public health or public or air safety;

(b)preventing the spread of disease; or

©preventing serious damage to livestock, foodstuffs for livestock, crops, vegetables, fruit, growing timber, [F39, fisheries or inland waters].

Now most people do so under 'Protection of crops', claiming that they are damaging there veggies in the back garden. (But this is not a serious defense, as 'Serious damage' is completely up to interpertation)

What should be mentioned is that there is no concrete 'right or wrong' on this issue, if you are caught, and taken to court, the vast majority of this act is up to interpretation by the judge and jury.

People have gotten in serious trouble for shooting pigeons in there back garden before.

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I'm sure I also read the same in an Airgun magazine, most people that shoot on farmers land do so under the guise of protecting crops, but in your garden this could be hard to justify. And since they are not game you can't shoot to eat specifically.
 
thedoc46 said:
One of these is air, can you tell which one ?
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The top one is undoubtedly a replica of the Beretta PX4 Storm. The thumb safety is non-functional because it's molded to the slide, and there is a distinct cutout for the rotary magazine at the bottom of the grip.

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Richard_16v said:
Are you sure? I wouldn't like to test it

Quote from http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/150294-garden-pigeon-shooting-airgun-the-law/

I've answered this question a dozen (if not more) times.

The simple answer is: Maybe.

You are allowed to control certain birds (Not game/wildfowl which are kept under a different act) that allows you to shoot certain birds if conditions are met.

The reasons for doing so are:
(Wildlife and countryside act 1982, F39/3)

(a)preserving public health or public or air safety;

(b)preventing the spread of disease; or

©preventing serious damage to livestock, foodstuffs for livestock, crops, vegetables, fruit, growing timber, [F39, fisheries or inland waters].

Now most people do so under 'Protection of crops', claiming that they are damaging there veggies in the back garden. (But this is not a serious defense, as 'Serious damage' is completely up to interpertation)

What should be mentioned is that there is no concrete 'right or wrong' on this issue, if you are caught, and taken to court, the vast majority of this act is up to interpretation by the judge and jury.

People have gotten in serious trouble for shooting pigeons in there back garden before.

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I'm sure I also read the same in an Airgun magazine, most people that shoot on farmers land do so under the guise of protecting crops, but in your garden this could be hard to justify. And since they are not game you can't shoot to eat specifically.
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It's very much under interpretation to be honest. Technically every shot gunner shooting over a harvested crop is illegal. They aren't protecting the crop as its already been harvested so they are just shooting for the fun of it.

The GL is a very tricky thing
 
You got it fellas. Top one. PX4 c02.

Looks pretty damn real though. I use it for inexpensive target practice. Even has the rack that slides.
 
So, old new i know but are there any OCUK Airgunners who are going to get screwed when Scotland brings in the Airgun Licensing in April?

If so what are your plans!?
 
HybridX said:
So, old new i know but are there any OCUK Airgunners who are going to get screwed when Scotland brings in the Airgun Licensing in April?

If so what are your plans!?
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im ok. got my shotgun cert so just have to wait till that runs out then get the airgun licence.

biggest problem is the whole thing will fall on its arse.

police Scotland can barley handle firearm and shotgun certs as it is. what are they going to do when 900 000 people start applying.

your talking 6 to 10 weeks for a renewal. If i don't time it right i have to put my guns into storage until its renewed.
 
Decided to have a go at 'tuning' my Cometa 300 air rifle since I had it apart to replace the piston seal. I bought a rod of black delrin a while ago from ebay, so used this as I believe it is the same material used for my venom tuned HW97. Turned a top hat for the front of the spring and a washer for the rear.

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Next job is to make a steel piston liner out of an old spray paint tin. I was going to buy some 0.5mm ptfe sheet, but it's £6 and I doubt it will make enough of a difference to warrant the cost.

I have some delrin left and its the exact diameter of the compression tube, so I'm toying with the idea of adding a delrin ring around the rear of the piston. The piston is a sloppy fit so it seems like it shouldn't be too hard to achieve. I was thinking of buying a 3mm metal cutting disk for my angle grinder and making a jig that I could slowly rotate the piston and it would just cut into the piston a mm or so. Then epoxy the ring in place. Not sure if it would be more trouble than its worth...
 
Mark A said:
Decided to have a go at 'tuning' my Cometa 300 air rifle since I had it apart to replace the piston seal. I bought a rod of black delrin a while ago from ebay, so used this as I believe it is the same material used for my venom tuned HW97. Turned a top hat for the front of the spring and a washer for the rear.

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Next job is to make a steel piston liner out of an old spray paint tin. I was going to buy some 0.5mm ptfe sheet, but it's £6 and I doubt it will make enough of a difference to warrant the cost.

I have some delrin left and its the exact diameter of the compression tube, so I'm toying with the idea of adding a delrin ring around the rear of the piston. The piston is a sloppy fit so it seems like it shouldn't be too hard to achieve. I was thinking of buying a 3mm metal cutting disk for my angle grinder and making a jig that I could slowly rotate the piston and it would just cut into the piston a mm or so. Then epoxy the ring in place. Not sure if it would be more trouble than its worth...
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Any updates on this Mark?
 
HybridX said:
Any updates on this Mark?
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I bought a piston seal from the guy on Ebay and it seems to be decent. I'm not sure how he makes any profit after shipping from Australia.

Made a piston liner out of an old steel spray paint tin, which has taken some of the twang out of the spring, but it needs a tighter fitting rear guide making to finish the job. Theres a guy on the airgun bbs that makes them, so might ask him to make me one at some point.

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I havent used it much as I just bought a Brummie Webley Tomahawk with a Vmach kit fitted off the bbs, so been playing with that :cool:.

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Mark A said:
I bought a piston seal from the guy on Ebay and it seems to be decent. I'm not sure how he makes any profit after shipping from Australia.

Made a piston liner out of an old steel spray paint tin, which has taken some of the twang out of the spring, but it needs a tighter fitting rear guide making to finish the job. Theres a guy on the airgun bbs that makes them, so might ask him to make me one at some point.

I havent used it much as I just bought a Brummie Webley Tomahawk with a Vmach kit fitted off the bbs, so been playing with that :cool:.

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Cheers for the update and nice proper tomahawk. Did you look at tw chambers or knibbs' for the part before buying off ebay? Thats where i got the parts for my wip airsporter. I really need to send my Airsporter parts off to be be blued so i can assemble and finish it
 
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