The Air Rifles & Pistols thread

I used to use Chambers all the time before this VCR bill, so now I would have to send them my old piston seal before they will send the new one, or mess about getting it sent to a local gun shop.


Originally wanted another Longbow, but the Tomahawk I bought is short stroked and seems to have a fast lock time and the extra size and weight helps to soak up the recoil better.

Only issue is the first stage on the trigger is a little sticky. Might need a bit of grease on the sears or something.


I'll be interested to see the airsporter finished if you ever get round to sending it off :p.
 
Mark A said:
I used to use Chambers all the time before this VCR bill, so now I would have to send them my old piston seal before they will send the new one, or mess about getting it sent to a local gun shop.


Originally wanted another Longbow, but the Tomahawk I bought is short stroked and seems to have a fast lock time and the extra size and weight helps to soak up the recoil better.

Only issue is the first stage on the trigger is a little sticky. Might need a bit of grease on the sears or something.


I'll be interested to see the airsporter finished if you ever get round to sending it off :p.
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o.0 i ordered a leather pistol head/seal for my Airsporter from Chambers and they just posted it.... all ordered online lol

My rifles havent progressed past the same point they were in april in this post

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=27870495&postcount=1793

Only change is the Airsporter has been fully taken to bits now (loading tap and sights) and just needs posting to Manchester to get blued
 
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Got a really old break barrel spring air rifle that i used to use as a kid. dug it out while moving as i've been using my PCP one instead. Had a go with it and the shots are so inaccurate and has very poor range. Is it likely that i need to get a new spring for it? If so is it fairly easy to change?
 
bulletv1 said:
Got a really old break barrel spring air rifle that i used to use as a kid. dug it out while moving as i've been using my PCP one instead. Had a go with it and the shots are so inaccurate and has very poor range. Is it likely that i need to get a new spring for it? If so is it fairly easy to change?
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Probably, but it could be a few other things as well. The piston washer might need replacing. The breech seal might be knackered as well. You can test this by putting a bit of talc powder on the breech and taking a shot. Both are usually easy to replace.

Best bet would be to open her up and have a look. A good clean and lube with the proper lubes could go a long way to getting it shooting better.

Well worth investing a bit of time and effort into getting it running. I wish I still had the springers I had as a kid.
 
The Airsporter and Meteor i have are the onew my father bought when he was a teen in the early 60's so they are keepers for me.

If the springer you have is quite old it may need servicing as Mark said but the pellets you are using might be wrong for the barrel which may explain some random accuracy.

Also you may have lost the technique and skill to shoot a springer as while i like pcps they are "easymode" airgunning and break your form for holding and firing a springer.

What calibe and make is your springer
 
Cheers for the advise, will give it a go. It had been left out in the shed for about 8 years so wouldn't be surprised if washers and breech seals might be knackered. And tips on what lubes etc i would need? I only have experience in shooting them and not maintaining :)

HybridX said:
The Airsporter and Meteor i have are the onew my father bought when he was a teen in the early 60's so they are keepers for me.

If the springer you have is quite old it may need servicing as Mark said but the pellets you are using might be wrong for the barrel which may explain some random accuracy.

Also you may have lost the technique and skill to shoot a springer as while i like pcps they are "easymode" airgunning and break your form for holding and firing a springer.

What calibe and make is your springer
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I did put a scope on it and noticed the pellet drop was horrific. Struggling to hit from a few meters and I'm sure i'm not that bad.

Will have a look tonight when i get back from work but i don't really even remember any markings on it. I know it's a .177 and that's about it.

It's got to be at least 30 years old as my older brother used to use it and knowing my dad it wasn't brand new when he got it. This is the only one to survive my brother dismantling them. I remember his 'parts' collection.
 
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Any high moly content grease should do. I think people often use CV joint grease. Or you can get a pot of Abbey LT2 moly grease like I did, a bit expensive for the small amount but it has lasted me years as you don't need a lot.

A light coating on the rear of the piston, spring and spring guide, using an old brush or your finger. Make sure not to get any in front of the piston washer.

If its a leather piston washer you can sometimes get modern synthetic piston washers to replace them with. Not 100% sure what you do with a leather washer so someone else might be bale to help with that once you have stripped it.

Im sure if you post a pic someone will be able to identify it.
 
For a leather piston head, Chambers sell them and you should soak them in pure neatsfoot oil to make it supple, then you can fit it.
 
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Next gun that is getting some attention. Hopefully a relube with dry moly spray will stop it dieseling.
 
I can't seem to get any enjoyment out of recoilless guns :(. Have a Beretta and Walther cp88 co2 guns, but just get bored before the co2 bulb has even ran out.

It might be different with a semi target gun though. I was thinking about getting the HW40 a while back to test the waters. A HW75 would match my HW45 nicely though :cool:.

My HW45 tends to diesel really bad every few shots with sends the pellet out of the group, which is annoying. The piston seal is such a tight fit that any grease they put in the comp chamber when assembling in the factory just gets scraped up in front of the piston seal. I'm going to use a dry moly spray to see if it will help. Have also ordered some ptfe to make a piston sleeve.
 
Our club has a Rohm Twinmaster that i was dying to use and was one of the members which he donated to the club when he gave up comp shooting but some **** has managed to ruin the valves and it would cost a fortune to repair which is a shame for a £600 pistol.

Edit: Side note there is an old chap about 55-60 who comes down the club and someone had sold him a SMK B2 Custom a while ago and he let me use it today. I thought the Remington Express someone brought down last year was the roughest air gun i ever used or saw but this thing is something else.

  • Woodwork and finish is like a brown poorly polished turd.
  • Metal work is rough as hell and feels cheap
  • Zero adjustment on the trigger and it talks pounds upon pounds of pressure to fire it as the trigger is directly linked to the piston sear
  • Kicks like a mule that's been sucking on lemons
  • You can audibly hear the twang and feel and hear the vibrations from the spring when you fire it

It's such a dog its crazy. At 10m, rested on the bench, with a scope he was getting 2-3 inch groups consistently. I had a crack and i couldn't get anything under 2-2.5inch groups and even then it shot where ever it wanted!!

Bearing in mind i can hit 2 inch groups or under at 30m, with iron sights, with a .38 special rested on my elbows not direct on the bench, or sub half inch groups (often keyholing) with a .22lr! (I mainly shoot air rifle springers too)
 
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bulletv1 said:
Well I got the rifle out and it is a Model 62 shanghai China. Will upload photos tomorrow when in front of a computer.
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Just googled it and it looks very similar to the SMK B2 Custom i was talking about (Which is chinese)!


Edit: Just found out its the same damn rifle! Interested to see how yours fires compared to the pile of trash the guy at the range had.

This one i assume

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Looks like a B2. While not the best rifle in the world, they can be a fun plinker for knocking over tin cans.

You could dig out that leather breech seal and replace it with a nitrile rubber o-ring as that does look compressed. Loads of sizes available on ebay, so just need to measure the current leather one.

Looks like the barrel needs a good clean. You can make a cheap pullthrough with a length of thin wire. Just make a loop at one end using superglue, then stick a bit of cotton cloth through the loop with some 3-in 1 oil on it and pull it through the barrel a few times. Then replace it with another oil soaked bit of cloth. The pull a couple of dry cloths through.

The stock looks better than the one my mate had. His was painted with a brown paint and had brush marks and a bristle stuck in it lol.



I have re assembled my HW45 now and I'm amazed at the difference. I used the dry moly spray I bought, on the piston and sprayed some into the comp chamber. Added a very thin smear of moly paste on the rear of the piston and the spring guide and spring.

The ptfe piston sleeve I made should help keep any grease inside the piston.

Once I put it all back together it was a little grindy and dry to **** so I put a smear more around the cocking slots and visible bit of the rear piston, which seems to have done the trick.

The power has dropped a bit as to be expected. 510-530 fps for Geco flat pellets and around 350 or so on the lower power setting. Very little smoke now, not like the thick cloud of smoke that was happening before. I got 3 shots ontop of each other at 7m, which I have never done before. Seems a lot more predictable and tamer now. It will need bedding in a bit as well.

Only thing I miss is the smell :(:o.

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The one the guy brought to the range looked like it had been dipped in an industrial drum of crappy wood varnish and was like brown sludge on it.

Bulletv1's looks a lot better for the stock finish. I want to get my hands on a cheapy Chinese rifle and pull it apart and see if i can get one to shoot well.
Just a quick question, when you stick a pellet in it and fire it (never dry fire) is the trigger really hard and stiff to pull?
 
HybridX said:
Just a quick question, when you stick a pellet in it and fire it (never dry fire) is the trigger really hard and stiff to pull?
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Will fire it when it's all tidied up but from the last time I used the gun it was stiff to pull but not hard. And I'm sure it had quite a kick. But that might be because I'm used to my pcp.
 
HybridX said:
I want to get my hands on a cheapy Chinese rifle and pull it apart and see if i can get one to shoot well.
Just a quick question, when you stick a pellet in it and fire it (never dry fire) is the trigger really hard and stiff to pull?
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I think they are a one stage trigger and the trigger just latches directly onto the piston. That's one thing to check actually, make sure its not worn right down to a nub as it could be dangerous.
 
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