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[thor]

I' having a little argument with myself. I have two raid pulse rifles, one at 304 and the other at 305. I've been using them just to keep my light level up but am not a big fan of pulse rifles in general.

I'm deciding between either infusing them in to my 295 Zhalo Supercell or infusing them in to my 294 Hung Jury. The Hung Jury would be arguably the better tool for raids, but the Zhalo Supercell is just so damn fun and easy.

Any opinions?

Ideally I'd love the raid scout with the auto fire perk, but... RNG

Personally, I'd go with HJ. I really like Supercell as well, but never use it in the raid anymore. Everywhere else, 295 is more than enough. Also, with those two infusions, you'll get HJ up to 305 but only 304 for Supercell.

I got a raid scout with full auto the other day. Decided to stick with the non-auto version instead as I'm so used to constantly pulling the trigger anyway.

 

[thor]

Somebody has done the DPS numbers.

Touch of malice can do between 16k to 20k damage with constant firing during that phase

https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3mntdp/spoiler_touch_of_malice_vs_oryx_and_why_its/

Sleeper simulant can do 30k with two shots.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyThe...sleeper_simulant_is_really_good_against_oryx/

Sleeper wins the damage round. Of course touch of malice doesn't need heavy ammo so wins the efficiency round. Both will work and I think it will come down to preference.

The post you've quoted shows ToM doing up to 33K damage, not 20K. The post states he gets 16-20 shots in, which total up to 33K damage.

 

[Fallen god]

I'm at 40/50 fragments now, I believe the remaining ones are mostly just from the court however I have 0 stolen runes and thats 4 of them missing :X.

 

[Greboth]

I've got a charged rune ready for T3 CoO which is my last outstanding fragment, be good to knock that out quickly before the raid if people are about early. Should have my ToM this week

Had a good run with exotic engrams, 3/4 have come 310. Got my 1000 yard stare to 309, NM chest to 310, and hung jury to 307. Got some sniper ammo boots now which'll be handy too.

If all goes to plan with work tomorrow I should be on around 6PM so plenty of time to get a T3 CoO done for your ToM. Scout rifle telemtry and 25-30 motes of light will see it maxxed too. I don't know about Jacko but I know OweO and I have one, you should be able to get yours and I would be surprised if Sonny and Apatia don't have one. So we should definitley have 3 but maybe up to 5 or 6

Nice with your exotics. I have only had one drop at 310 so far which were my impossible machines. Though would prefer a 310 light beyond nemisis for my warlock.

I'm at 40/50 fragments now, I believe the remaining ones are mostly just from the court however I have 0 stolen runes and thats 4 of them missing :X.

If you're rank 4 or 5 (can't remember) with Eris you can buy stolen runes off her using glimmer and black wax idols.

 

[thor]

If all goes to plan with work tomorrow I should be on around 6PM so plenty of time to get a T3 CoO done for your ToM. Scout rifle telemtry and 25-30 motes of light will see it maxxed too.

And 80 Hadium Flakes

 

[AStaley]

I'm at 40/50 fragments now, I believe the remaining ones are mostly just from the court however I have 0 stolen runes and thats 4 of them missing :X.

I'm on 42 at the moment. Need a couple from T2/3, along with a few others. If you want to get a fireteam together this evening?

http://destinycalcifiedfragments.com/psn/AStaley

 

[mid_gen]

If all goes to plan with work tomorrow I should be on around 6PM so plenty of time to get a T3 CoO done for your ToM. Scout rifle telemtry and 25-30 motes of light will see it maxxed too. I don't know about Jacko but I know OweO and I have one, you should be able to get yours and I would be surprised if Sonny and Apatia don't have one. So we should definitley have 3 but maybe up to 5 or 6

I've completed the Hunger Pangs lines as far as completing the Undying Mind strike target.

I'm on 46/50 fragments already and it hasn't triggered the Fear's Embrace mission yet. I have barely played my hunter and I've double checked most fragments on my titan so hopefully the last T3 CoO will tip me over the 45, otherwise I'll be getting the pencil and paper out!

Got my sleeper and 309 100-yard stare so DPS shouldn't be a prob.

 

[Greboth]

I've completed the Hunger Pangs lines as far as completing the Undying Mind strike target.

I'm on 46/50 fragments already and it hasn't triggered the Fear's Embrace mission yet. I have barely played my hunter and I've double checked most fragments on my titan so hopefully the last T3 CoO will tip me over the 45, otherwise I'll be getting the pencil and paper out!

Got my sleeper and 309 100-yard stare so DPS shouldn't be a prob.

You haven't finished the raid have you? So you can't have it before it the raid but hopefully can get it really soon afterwards. I can't get on any game sites at work to read through the quest steps but I don't think the fears embrace mission will unlock until you have the frame which you only get after getting the getting all the bits from the raid.

 

[Drunzer]

I'm at 40/50 fragments now, I believe the remaining ones are mostly just from the court however I have 0 stolen runes and thats 4 of them missing :X.

I'm on 42 at the moment. Need a couple from T2/3, along with a few others. If you want to get a fireteam together this evening?

http://destinycalcifiedfragments.com/psn/AStaley

I can help with some court if I'm on tonight.

 

[mid_gen]

You haven't finished the raid have you? So you can't have it before it the raid but hopefully can get it really soon afterwards. I can't get on any game sites at work to read through the quest steps but I don't think the fears embrace mission will unlock until you have the frame which you only get after getting the getting all the bits from the raid.

Yeah I haven't beaten the raid yet so I won't have it beforehand. Hopefully I'll just have to knock out Fear's Embrace afterwards and I'll have it.

How many Hadium flakes needed? I've got 30, I thought you needed 50?

 

[Phog]

Yeah I think it's 50, then another 30 to fully upgrade the silly thing. It is very good once you have it though!

 

[Greboth]

Yeah I haven't beaten the raid yet so I won't have it beforehand. Hopefully I'll just have to knock out Fear's Embrace afterwards and I'll have it.

How many Hadium flakes needed? I've got 30, I thought you needed 50?

From memory of the quest, if you have 45 fragments and have done the kight in the undying mind. Then I think you only have finish the raid which gives you the frame and then you need to do the fears embrace. If we finish the raid quick enough, which hopefully we will, I am happy to help you on the fears embrace. Hopefully you have the hadium flakes already as farming then sucks so bad

 

[mid_gen]

Just announced 4 hours downtime starting now for 2.0.1.

IB tomorrow...perfect as I've now just got 10 crucible wins to do for my exotic faction mark Still have 4 medallions knocking around on my titan too for some reason.

 

[Phog]

Not sure if it's just been me but I got some passage coins for completing the daily PvP today. I think that's the first time since TTK dropped that I've noticed (and I think I've played a fair amount of PvP!)

 

[oHUTCHYo]

Holy mother of god.

"We've Woken The Hive..." x100. Titan + Arc Super Smash. This bloody sword better be worth it, I thought the farming was bad enough, never mind the arc kills. Anyway, it's done now, just need to wait until arms day and do the special strike.

 

[mid_gen]

Got my 50 hadium flakes sorted Hunter keen scout ftw!

Realised you can infuse armour from other classes, helpful as I have a lot of high 290 titan blues, just used them to bump my hunter up. Both over 300 now.

Now for the 9 more crucible wins for my NM exotic....well timed Iron Banner this one...although obviously I'm away for a long weekend again so won't get to use the big tempering boosts :|

Got another 310 hereafter...seems a bit crap so will probably infuse something, not sure what though as my 1000-yard stare is 309 already.

 

[Davey_Pitch]

Somebody has done the DPS numbers.

Touch of malice can do between 16k to 20k damage with constant firing during that phase

https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3mntdp/spoiler_touch_of_malice_vs_oryx_and_why_its/

Sleeper simulant can do 30k with two shots.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyThe...sleeper_simulant_is_really_good_against_oryx/

Sleeper wins the damage round. Of course touch of malice doesn't need heavy ammo so wins the efficiency round. Both will work and I think it will come down to preference.

I don't believe those numbers too much really. In terms of continued DPS I don't think anything is better than the Malice against the Daughters and Oryx. The Sleeper can definitely hit harder and put out better burst damage, but assuming you're quick enough to get a good 30-40 seconds to shoot the Daughters, nothing will beat the Malice. They move around too much to get constant crit shots with Black Malice, and you'd run out of ammo with the Sleeper and have to waste time reloading and using a synth. With the Malice, you just shoot until they are dead, hitting for around 5k crit every shot.

I'm actually not a fan of the Malice that much to be honest, but it's easily the best gun for those last two boss fights in the raid.

 

[TehBluebear]

How does Iron Banner work, and is it worth doing anything with it if you're not *that* interested in PvP?

 

[mid_gen]

See what the gear is like when it launches. It's good fun as a fireteam, but can be a royal pain in the butt if you're playing solo. It does try and pair you with other randoms but sometimes you'll be matched against a fireteam and get stomped.

 

[Greboth]

How does Iron Banner work, and is it worth doing anything with it if you're not *that* interested in PvP?

Basically a pvp mode where level advantage and gear level is activated. In previous ones you needed to rank up to buy the gear but in this one the gear will apparently drop after matches. There has been some awesome weapons available through IB but sometimes it is rubbish and not worth the effort.

Edit:

I don't believe those numbers too much really. In terms of continued DPS I don't think anything is better than the Malice against the Daughters and Oryx. The Sleeper can definitely hit harder and put out better burst damage, but assuming you're quick enough to get a good 30-40 seconds to shoot the Daughters, nothing will beat the Malice. They move around too much to get constant crit shots with Black Malice, and you'd run out of ammo with the Sleeper and have to waste time reloading and using a synth. With the Malice, you just shoot until they are dead, hitting for around 5k crit every shot.

I'm actually not a fan of the Malice that much to be honest, but it's easily the best gun for those last two boss fights in the raid.

Which numbers or the ones in the reddit posts? Frodders misquoted the numbers. According to those reddit posts agains Oryx
Touch of Malice; Final round does 1,678 and depending timing totals between 26,848 and 33,560.
Sleeper; Hits for 15k a burst and there is time for 2 burts so 30k.

I can believe those figures unless you know something otherwise. So ToM hits around the same as sleeper but without the cost of any ammo leaving special and sleeper for hitting ogre's.