The EU Migrant Crisis

itchy · 1 Nov 2015 at 21:03

We are talking about immigration not colonization.

Logistics, housing and infrastructure all play a part in immigration.

We don't have it for our own people so how can we provide for others??

Dicehunter · 1 Nov 2015 at 21:03

Tunney said:
Countries that England have had a war with. Christianity is the religion of peace!

Could you give me 1 example within the last 10 years of when a Christian man or woman has run into the middle of a crowd of Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs or Buddhists and shouted "JESUS IS GREAT" and then blown him or herself up in the name of their religion ? Or beheaded someone in the middle of a capital city shouting "JESUS IS GREAT" ?

You can't, But both of those things have happen an immense amount of times in the muslim world, A beheading *His head held on by a flap of skin* happened not too long ago in England, Lee Rigby, This is the culture that is being imported into Europe and if that doesn't scare the poop out of you then I don't know what will.

Buddy · 1 Nov 2015 at 21:07

Dicehunter said:
Twisting words as usual I see.

He asked what your opinion was, Nothing else.

Tunney said:
To say you need to be Christian now to be integrated is laughable though. Am I not integrated as an atheist?

Boycey0211 · 1 Nov 2015 at 21:15

Dicehunter said:
This is the culture that is being imported into Europe and if that doesn't scare the poop out of you then I don't know what will.

The fact that people can understand so little about a religion and culture scares the poop out of me.

Yeah, there are bad eggs.

To give you a comeback the the Lee Rigby example, Anders Breivik?

Pretty sure there are loads of other ones, but that one popped up there.

Oh theres this one, only a few miles from where I'm from originally, has a very small muslim community:

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/mold-tesco-attack-trial-zack-9524001

All in the name of Lee Rigby.

RedDanDoc · 1 Nov 2015 at 21:18

Boycey0211 said:
The fact that people can understand so little about a religion and culture scares the poop out of me.
.

It's not for us to understand their religion it's for them to act civilised when migrating to other countries.

Boycey0211 · 1 Nov 2015 at 21:23

RedDanDoc said:
It's not for us to understand their religion it's for them to act civilised when migrating to other countries.

Yep and I agree with you and always have throughout this thread, I think having at least some understanding of the basics of it go a long way though, i.e understanding not to interrupt prayer time at work (if you have a dedicated prayer room that is) and understanding basics such as ramadan.

It's not about changing your way of life to encompass that by any means, its just about having a bit of respect for someone. I apply that to all religions too.

As for the civilised bit, well just believe what you read in the paper if that makes life easier for you, I can't expect someone to go looking for the positives when MSM is only interested in peddling horror stories.

itchy · 1 Nov 2015 at 21:26

Boycey0211 said:
The fact that people can understand so little about a religion and culture scares the poop out of me.

Yeah, there are bad eggs.

To give you a comeback the the Lee Rigby example, Anders Breivik?

Pretty sure there are loads of other ones, but that one popped up there.

Oh theres this one, only a few miles from where I'm from originally, has a very small muslim community:

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/mold-tesco-attack-trial-zack-9524001

All in the name of Lee Rigby.

It has to be a cat meme for this sorry... WTF!!!

Anders Breivik a very English example.

Boycey0211 · 1 Nov 2015 at 21:28

itchy said:
It has to be a cat meme for this sorry... WTF!!!

Anders Breivik a very English example.

You bother reading the second link?

Guess not, itchys style of posting, laugh at people without reading, make self look like fool, jog on.

Buddy · 1 Nov 2015 at 21:29

RedDanDoc · 1 Nov 2015 at 21:29

Boycey0211 said:
MSM is only interested in peddling horror stories.

I have not seen anything negative regarding the migrant crisis on the main stream media. If anything there's a blackout.

itchy · 1 Nov 2015 at 21:35

Boycey0211 said:
You bother reading the second link?

Guess not, itchys style of posting, laugh at people without reading, make self look like fool, jog on.

Do even bother to leave Norfolk to see what is going on around you in other regions?

You don't need to go far and just look around you, its closer than you think.

RedDanDoc · 1 Nov 2015 at 21:35

It was kind of heart warming last Christmas when I had to go to certain Muslim homes and saw that they had Christmas decorations up. We do have to be careful.

I think that the left are doing a hell of a lot of damage.

Rroff · 1 Nov 2015 at 21:37

RedDanDoc said:
It was kind of heart warming last Christmas when I had to go to certain Muslim homes and saw that they had Christmas decorations up. We do have to be careful.

I think that the left are doing a hell of a lot of damage.

Its tolerance rather than necessarily that level of integration that is required.

maltrabob · 1 Nov 2015 at 21:39

Boycey0211: Breivik's case has nothing in common with them blacks beheading a British soldier. Breivik attacked socialists because of their pro-islamic immigration agenda. The way things are developing you can expect more Breiviks in the future I am sure.
As for Zack Davies, little scum and I can give you many examples of racially motivated attacks on white people too.

RedDanDoc · 1 Nov 2015 at 21:39

Rroff said:
Its tolerance rather than necessarily that level of integration that is required.

Are you drunk mate?

Rroff · 1 Nov 2015 at 21:41

RedDanDoc said:
Are you drunk mate?

Tolerance from both sides (incase that wasn't clear). Not saying there shouldn't be some integration but the real problem with this situation is a lot more complicated than that.

Boycey0211 · 1 Nov 2015 at 21:42

itchy said:
Do even bother to leave Norfolk to see what is going on around you in other regions?

You don't need to go far and just look around you, its closer than you think.

Yeah funnily enough, I've also spent time working in Dubai, Afghanistan, Quatar, Kosovo, Cyprus, The states, Czech Republic, Turkey and a few others but please tell me more about how terrible life is in Liverpool, I mean I've been to some ****holes but I wouldnt step foot in that place.

Boycey0211 · 1 Nov 2015 at 21:45

maltrabob said:
Baycey0211: Breivik's case has nothing in common with them blacks beheading a British soldier. Breivik attacked socialists because of their pro-islamic immigration agenda. The way things are developing you can expect more Breiviks in the future I am sure.
As for Zack Davies, little scum and I can give you many examples of racially motivated attacks on white people too.

Bit more to it than that:

On the day of the attacks, Breivik electronically distributed a compendium of texts entitled 2083: A European Declaration of Independence, describing his far-right militant ideology. In them, he lays out a worldview encompassing Islamophobia and opposition to feminism. The texts call Islam and Cultural Marxism the enemy, argue for the violent annihilation of Eurabia and multiculturalism and advocate deportation of all Muslims from Europe based on the model of the Beneš decrees. Breivik wrote that his main motive for the atrocities was to market his manifesto. Breivik has later identified himself as a fascist, stating that he previously exploited counterjihadist rhetoric in order to protect ethno-nationalists.

Dicehunter · 1 Nov 2015 at 21:51

Boycey0211 said:
Bit more to it than that:

Well he had 1 point in that text, Europe will soon have to be renamed to Eurabia.

SciNeT · 1 Nov 2015 at 21:54

RedDanDoc said:
It's not for us to understand their religion it's for them to act civilised when migrating to other countries.

Indeed. But they really need to go through a cultural renaissance or enlightenment period before the rest of the world will ever take them seriously.