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Plus the fact is that Freesync monitors are now starting to appear at under £200 meaning it is far more accessible to people running midrange cards.
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Plus the fact is that Freesync monitors are now starting to appear at under £200 meaning it is far more accessible to people running midrange cards.
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"Technique used to smooth out pointy corners"
Sad how this has gone 8 pages, considering the blogger himself shows clear lack of understanding of how the industry works and has worked for many years.
The fact he also would rather go with AMD simply out of principle speaks words.
Sad how this has gone 8 pages, considering the blogger himself shows clear lack of understanding of how the industry works and has worked for many years.
The fact he also would rather go with AMD simply out of principle speaks words.
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Benq 1440-144hz TN freesync £400
Dell 1440-144hz TN Gsync £430
£150+ premium? Don't get me wrong you can equate that high if you factor in Asus tax, or even more for things like 165hz. But at least make the effort to show the best possible scenario too.
There might even be cheaper freesync monitors of that spec but the benq is the only one I know off the top of my head with a reasonable range.
Cheaper is more accessible to the midrange...provided you have a card that can do freesync, let's not forget it's only Hawaii/Tonga/Fiji chips (iirc) that can do it, where as gsync works on any nvidia card with a dp 1.2 port (650ti and above).
Dell 1440-144hz TN Gsync £430
£150+ premium? Don't get me wrong you can equate that high if you factor in Asus tax, or even more for things like 165hz. But at least make the effort to show the best possible scenario too.
There might even be cheaper freesync monitors of that spec but the benq is the only one I know off the top of my head with a reasonable range.
Cheaper is more accessible to the midrange...provided you have a card that can do freesync, let's not forget it's only Hawaii/Tonga/Fiji chips (iirc) that can do it, where as gsync works on any nvidia card with a dp 1.2 port (650ti and above).
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So how much do the equivalent Benq and Dell GSync and Freesync monitors cost in the same range?
Look at the AOC ones - the £200 FreeSync one has a GSync equivalent costing like £300. In fact where are all the sub £250 GSync monitors?
Any £100 ones?
Also the Bonaire chips support Freesync.
You know the one in the HD7790?
So its all a moot point - Freesync is a software interface for the next gen of scalers with adaptive sync which has economies of scale instead of a lower volume FPFA.
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Not sure what point you are trying to make when looking for a £100 panel.
This comes down to a few things you've neglected to even mention so can only assume you've made your mind up already.
The criteria is very different for what makes the grade and what doesn't for certification. Including I might add especially on newer IPS panels and QC thresholds.
An adaptive refresh panel aimed at gamers with a £100 price tag is a very 'unique' SKU indeed. For the sake of banter in other words, if you want crap you're welcome to it lol
Just because a game has a fullscreen option doesn't mean its exclusive fullscreen mode (required for FreeSync) around 20-30% of games use borderless window mode or some other variant of fullscreen that isn't exclusive.
Depends on your perspective - for some people £150 is pocket change, for others that is a considerable investment.
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Also going lower end - every Kaveri based APU supports it too. So once more sub £200 monitors come out its going to get interesting.
Not the same screens
I paid £695.99 for my G-Sync monitor on 16th September 2014 and I don't regreat a single penny. I know others who paid more and they don't either. If G-Sync monitors wasn't selling, the price would drop to reflect that but as it is staying high, clearly this shows what people are happy to pay for a decent product. If others don't want to spend that much or whatever, that is their choice but whinging about G-Sync prices is just silly. There is cheaper alternatives and having the top model isn't a right if you can't afford it.
Just watched the PCPER podcast and Ryan mentions that AMD are trying to take back part of Mantle, something about giving away too much IP. Just a rumour at the moment though, but obviously a good enough one to be mentioned in their podcast.
The Dells have a big discount added, that was cheeky paul, as above I'll add that BQ's GS 1080p premium is mental in comparison to other 1080p GS panels.
BQ 1440P FS has seen big discounts too, been available for £375 at times.
Maybe Dell decided the markets dictating that the GS premium isn't worth it and needs to drop the price to shift units after all we're hearing they just want to make as much money as possible so they aint dropping price to just be nice.
BQ 1440P FS has seen big discounts too, been available for £375 at times.
Maybe Dell decided the markets dictating that the GS premium isn't worth it and needs to drop the price to shift units after all we're hearing they just want to make as much money as possible so they aint dropping price to just be nice.
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But let's all forget the mainstream where even a £50 to £100 difference will be there difference between a r7 360/GTX750TI and R9 380/380X or a GTX960.
Let's just look at high end £350+ monitors which seriously nobody in the mainstream cares about outside a minority of users. Even if were a £100 difference it might not be as bad due to the type of person purchasing such expensive monitors.
Nvidia needs to find ways of getting some more budget GSync monitors out - mainstream users would benefit the most from it.
£300 is not budget.
£200 would probably a good starting point,maybe £150.
It's the same with Freesync - we are starting to see a trickle of monitors in that price range but there needs to be more otherwise it is going to another niche adoption technology. The same with 3D,dual cards,etc.
Lots of noise on forums but in reality not much market penetration.
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It's not up to them is it, they just flog the G-Sync modules/licence onto the vendors, don't they?
True that, there is some great Freesync capable screens at some great prices and people should buy them instead of whinging about G-Sync prices.
Yeah if you look in the monitors section there is no shortage of people posting in the PG278Q, PG279Q, Dell S2716DG, etc. threads about buying the monitors infact they are some of the most active posted in threads of any of them - I stand by my bit silly comment as if the premium was that outrageous there would definitely be a lot less people posting about their experiences of buying them.
People can whinge about prices as much as they like.
Totally and whilst the price is high, I have no regrets about buying and even though I have ummed and arrred about swapping out for other screens, I just look at the Swift and just don't feel it is worth it. Best monitor I have had and has done me proud for 18 months. To me the premium was worth it and not a single regret.
Clearly they can
Clearly they can
And clearly you would rather it be put up and shut up.
This but hey this is graphics sub