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AMD Polaris architecture – GCN 4.0

Considering that AMD mentioned they want to make the recommended VR spec more affordable, the 480 must come in under £200 and have at least 390/970 levels of performance. Plus it's an R9 x80 card, those cards have never really been priced above the £200 mark. Such a card would have to be name 490 and 490X instead.

If the 480 came in at close to current 390/970 prices... such a release would be pointless.
 
ICDP said:
But we know AMD are planing on both mainstream and performance markets.
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Not with Polaris. People expecting any Polaris chip to go toe-to-toe with the 1080/1070 have literally nothing to base this on, given what we've heard from AMD.
 
Nutella33 said:
A mid range part that performs at the level of fury pro with more VRAM for 300 quid and you don't think they would sell? :confused:
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£320-£380 is exactly where the custom 1070's will sit price wise. If it is barely even Fury performance and the 1070 matches or beats the 980ti, that would be a stupid move by AMD.
 
FoxEye said:
Not with Polaris. People expecting any Polaris chip to go toe-to-toe with the 1080/1070 have literally nothing to base this on, given what we've heard from AMD.
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Performance cards are more like the 390/390x. Your thinking of enthusiast. That would be the Fury x/ Vega.
 
Lokken86 said:
Performance cards are more like the 390/390x. Your thinking of enthusiast. That would be the Fury x/ Vega.
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Why am I thinking of enthusiast when I'm saying Polaris cards will *not* be £250+? That if AMD haven't massively misled us that they'll be £200 and less?

We all know Vega will be the high-end.
 
Davedree said:
no actual 380x what do you mean ?

If there are 2 die harvest of p10, then i 'd like.to think amd do away with tonga 380/380x.
And replace it with the smaller polaris 11 at 120-150.
With the polaris 10 at 180-220 and the polaris 10 xt at 240-300.

I won't be suprised if amd take the current 390 pricing tier though.
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Apologies, that was very poorly worded and I meant 480X not 380X. I meant that larger P10 could be a 390/X replacement rather than 380/X and as such the price tier could be higher. These rumours are extrapolated, so the prices and performance are just speculation until we get more concrete info.
 
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ICDP said:
I meant that larger P10 could be a 390/X replacement rather than 380/X.
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Where are you getting this impression from?

Have AMD ever spoken of Polaris as a mid-high/high end card? Has anything they've said lead you to that conclusion?
 
ICDP said:
Apologies, I meant 480X not 380X. I meant that larger P10 could be a 390/X replacement rather than 380/X. These rumours are extrapolated, so the prices and performance are just speculation until we get more concrete info.
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No probs, just wondered what you meant.
Totally agree it's all speculation, I am annoyed though that amd allowed nvidia to beat them to market. But if amd still price fairly then i'll be happy.
 
mahius said:
Considering that AMD mentioned they want to make the recommended VR spec more affordable, the 480 must come in under £200 and have at least 390/970 levels of performance. Plus it's an R9 x80 card, those cards have never really been priced above the £200 mark. Such a card would have to be name 490 and 490X instead.

If the 480 came in at close to current 390/970 prices... such a release would be pointless.
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Apologies yet again, my points are being poorly made :)

The article we are discussing is extrapolated and as such a best guess using existing data. My pricing was based on the assumption that (contrary to this article) Polaris P10 and P11 are actually replacements for 370, 380/X and 390/X range. So the price points would be similar to existing AMD GPUs from those ranges but with ~25% higher performance at each tier.

That would give 390 and 970 type performance at sub £200 price point and as such would meet AMDs goals of increasing the TAM for VR.
 
FoxEye said:
Where are you getting this impression from?

Have AMD ever spoken of Polaris as a mid-high/high end card? Has anything they've said lead you to that conclusion?
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Just rumours the same as everyone else. Some of the earliest info/rumours seemed to indicate AMD were aiming for Polaris at the mainstream and upper mid-range of the GPU market. Upper mid-range would be 390/X level IMHO.

So P11 would be mainstream. 370 and below.
P10 would be mid and upper mid range. 390/X and below.
 
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Jono8 said:
Anyone else notice on that slide

http://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/AMD-Radeon-Graphics.png

it says $329 - $650!?

If that is only talking about Polaris then we could be in for a price shock! Hopefully it is talking about the whole range ( ie Vega as well)
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$329 is around £275 quid with VAT but excluding ripoff UK markup, that could be around £300:confused:

I hope that first [does not] refer to P11, but even thr lower P10 model would be expensive. 1070 MSRP is only $50 more than the cheapest Polaris if that slide is to be believed:confused:

Edit: correct typos
 
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D.P. said:
$329 is around £275 quid with VAT but excluding ripoff UK markup, that could be astound £300:confused:

I hope that first refer to P11, but even lower P10 model would be expensive. 1070 MSRP is only $50 more than the cheapest Polaris if that slide is to be believed:confused:
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Indeed. :eek:

Seems odd.
 
Gerard said:
That whole bar seems to be talking about the range, pro duo is in there as well so could be talking about fury x for $650.
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But starting at $329? That is a lot considering the 1070 MSRP is $379.

Though pehrpas they only consider the 480 as VR ready so maybe that is the starting price for Polaris 10. Still dissapointing though.
 
Jono8 said:
But starting at $329? That is a lot considering the 1070 MSRP is $379.

Though pehrpas they only consider the 480 as VR ready so maybe that is the starting price for Polaris 10. Still dissapointing though.
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Just have to wait and see what's going on i suppose, hopefully concrete info sooner rather than later.
 
In this thread:

People who just saw a very fast 180W card launch on 16nm.

Yet think an 150W card on 14nm will be wayyyy slower :D

(also the GTX 1070 is 150W too)
 
AllBodies said:
In this thread:

People who just saw a very fast 180W card launch on 16nm.

Yet think an 150W card on 14nm will be wayyyy slower :D
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It is if those benchmarks are to be believed :p. The leaked 1080 benches on the same graph were correct so I suspect they are accurate.
 
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