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** NVIDIA GTX 1080 FOUNDERS EDITION: WANNA PRE-ORDER?

Doesn't work that way, once the aftermarket coolers come out, and 1070, then ti versions, FE will trickle down in price. Most new release Nvidia cards fetch a premium.
You are assuming the custom cards actually come in much cheaper. Everyone seems to somehow expect faster, cheaper, cooler and better OC'ing cards to be £50-75 cheaper than the FE? I really see no economical reason why they would be, unless Nvidia and AIB's are happy to see FE sales fall off a cliff, which they will if that happens.

Cards like the EVGA Classified 1080 will also make the debate about the FE prices go away.

The only thing the Classified will have in common with the FE is the actual 1080 chip and possibly the memory, everything else will be non standard.

Based on how much other Classified cards have cost like the 980 Ti and therefore the likely selling price of the 1080 version, this will put massive pressure on the FE price as the Classified could be the cheaper card.
WHY would the Classified be cheaper though? Why is everyone taking an MSRP to be gospel or like it's written in law. It's SUGGESTED! The Classified is not going to be cheaper than the FE, not a chance in hell. I'll take any bet at any odds on that.

If they make a good margin and sell loads they will have no problem undercutting the FE by quite a bit.

AIB partners are in competition with NVidia, they are not going to prop up the price of the FE so NVidia can make a pile at their expense.
They will sell by the boat load regardless. Look at how many people are all over the FE. AIB's have nothing to worry about, they know people will buy a faster, cooler, quieter better OC'ing card no matter what the price. If anything, the crazy price people are falling over themselves to pay for the FE only serves to reinforce the idea that they might be able to charge even more, leaving the $599 for blower models that are actually worse than the FE. If you were in charge of these companies, it would make perfect business sense to be thinking along those lines.

If the market will sustain constant price rises then Nvidia would be insane to not keep raising them. They're a business, not a charity. I don't like high prices of anything as much as the next person, but things are only as expensive as the market dictates.
The market doesn't dictate this, Nvidia do, because they ARE the market, they have no real competition and as Beany Bot says they are basically prodding said market to see how it responds... and from their perspective it's responding very well. So naturally this will give them pause for thought about raising prices further the next time around. :rolleyes:

No amount of moaning and whinging in these threads is going to make the slightest bit of difference, they will sell well regardless.
I don't think anyone, certainly not myself, expects to dent 1080 sales here LOL! Really not the point. At the same time, to dismissively wave your hands and say "if you can't afford it, jog on" is ignoring the bigger issue as mentioned, and the knock on effect this WILL have on future GPU pricing. So unless you are too rich to be bothered by such trivialities, or you don't have any intention of buying a GPU in the future, you WILL be affected by this (or rather your wallet will be) whether you realise it or not. But yeah, this is all pointless talk, it won't change anything of course... Nvidia are a tidal wave of epic proportion which cannot and will not be stopped, but that doesn't mean we have to sit here, suck it up and be quiet about it.
 
The 'you can't afford it' comments are slightly annoying.

I could happily buy 2 of these things for sli if I really wanted to.

I choose not to be ripped off thankyou.
 
I choose not to be ripped off thankyou.
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The market doesn't dictate this, Nvidia do, because they ARE the market, they have no real competition and as Beany Bot says they are basically prodding said market to see how it responds... and from their perspective it's responding very well. So naturally this will give them pause for thought about raising prices further the next time around. :rolleyes:

Nobody needs these consumer graphics.. Its for entertainment 99% of the time and those who need GPUs for business have firepro and Quadro available. Its a luxury item and therefor market does dictate the price and what baffles me is people will complain about the price and then go try and find the money to buy said item totally nullifying their own complaint in the process. Its simple.. Dont buy the bloody cards and the prices will come down, but we humans cant do that cause think.. just think .. if someone else has that new shiny and we didnt.. uhhh noo must have the shiny.
 
the definition of "pre order" means "place an order for (an item) before it is available for purchase"

So how is "pre ordering" on day of release actually pre ordering???? :confused:

As i can go collect one in a shop Friday morning so whats pre about it?
 
Nobody needs these consumer graphics.. Its for entertainment 99% of the time and those who need GPUs for business have firepro and Quadro available. Its a luxury item and therefor market does dictate the price and what baffles me is people will complain about the price and then go try and find the money to buy said item totally nullifying their own complaint in the process. Its simple.. Dont buy the bloody cards and the prices will come down, but we humans cant do that cause think.. just think .. if someone else has that new shiny and we didnt.. uhhh noo must have the shiny.

What he said x10 :). That's the main reason I think people are annoyed - they really want the shiny.

Someone mentioned about being annoyed at the "if you cant afford it" comments. I know what you mean but read such comments also as "if you can't justify it" - there is a huge difference, no need to be annoyed. Most people can afford a £600 card but many probably cannot justify spending that amount on one, maybe because they're a more casual gamer or have many other hobbies.
 
Beany bot, can I just ask you, you have a Asus 390 strix in your signature.

Why did you buy one of those rather than something cheaper, if it wasn't for people paying these prices (example the ASUS tax) these cards would be much cheaper for all.

Does this statement make a lot of sense to you, no, it makes no sense to me either, but this is what you sound like in this thread.
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I bought it because it was one of the cheapest ones (OCUK did me a sweet price match) the other option was the saffire but I far prefer the look of the Strix card even though the saffire is a better cooler. Just couldn't get on with the looks.

All in all a fairly considered purchase. No Asus tax in sight and certainly no bearing on my points about the price of the FE.
 
the definition of "pre order" means "place an order for (an item) before it is available for purchase"

So how is "pre ordering" on day of release actually pre ordering???? :confused:

As i can go collect one in a shop Friday morning so whats pre about it?

I did wonder this myself last Friday, as you say there isnt much "pre" about it :p:)
 
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I still see the same people whinging about the price. If people pay for the FE, it is their money and choice and good luck to them I say. I personally will wait for the 8+6 pin custom cards, as I know a few others here will and that is our choice.

This...

To be honest early comments are saying overclocks are limited by power limit of the 8pin connector. A tweaked bios could open this up a bit the same as the 980ti's however the better answer is as Greg said 8+6pin.

I'll be waiting for those as well... and then I may... just may depending on the price of the 8+6pin cards and the performance swap in my 980ti.

I'd be prepared to pay the FE none early adopter price for a custom 8+6pin card.

I'm thinking £575-£580 and I'd probably buy.
 
Kitguru has got review samples coming their way other reviewers have gotten theirs and an evga rep on evga forums has said we'll get solid info on at least a custom card on the 27th I think all vendors know the FE is going to be a fail as yes early adopters will buy one but the smarter people will wait it out for a week or two most and pick up an AIB which makes a lot more sense unless you NEED the fe and the benefits that gpu brings against custom cards
 
I expect to find out tommorow whether my current graphics cards are going to be sufficient for now, getting a consumer VR headset, I think I'm ahead of the curve though on hardware because a lot of people will just use the minimum of GTX 970

I dont use 1440p / 4K monitors because most monitor backlights fatigue my eyes so I have to use old CCFL monitors ( the tech immediately after CRTs )
so its difficult to create a situation where I have to render extremely high resolutions

Also dont use surround often because of the geometric distortion, so I only use it for flight sims where it gives huge benefits over a single monitor

If there were 4K screens in VR I would be more inclined to get 1080
but even then the value for money proposition seems quite poor at the moment
 
The amount of nda's around cards these days is ludicrous, surprised box dimensions aren't also covered by it.

They are not? I wonder if Gibbo can tell us the dimensions of the custom boxes then. ;)

I probably am going to get a 1080 too at some point but I couldnt justify paying so much(FE) for something thats gong to be better in 2 weeks time. If aib overclock to 2.4 thats a massive difference.

I am going sli too but my case is large and has lots of fans and had no problems with custom 680 three way sli.

I have an X34 but I can see scanlines up until around 75fps which make my eyes burn. So ill be trying to get the best preformance possible. (I want 100fps idealy lets face it)

I know it seems a lot and wasted money but
I dont have any other hobbies away from pcs, I dont even like watching TV. So I pool whole years of money for IT stuff.
 
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im gonna buy 2 1080s and a new bridge, what do you think my chances are to buy on ocuk? do I have to wait till midnight till Im allowed to purchase?

just thinking if some one waits till the morning of ordering, it will be sold out and we gonna have to wait till next delivery batch, ive experienced this sort of "out of stock situation before" not on gpu's but with consoles..

do you think it will all be sold out in the 1st 5 mins ?

ideally i want the egva version becuase of the uk rma
 
im gonna buy 2 1080s and a new bridge, what do you think my chances are to buy on ocuk? do I have to wait till midnight till Im allowed to purchase?

just thinking if some one waits till the morning of ordering, it will be sold out and we gonna have to wait till next delivery batch, ive experienced this sort of "out of stock situation before" not on gpu's but with consoles..

do you think it will all be sold out in the 1st 5 mins ?

ideally i want the egva version becuase of the uk rma

They come online to buy at ocuk 2pm friday.
 
Can't wait for the 1080 evga hybrid to be out . Really hoping it will have the extra umph to really OC with! I am truly fed up of no sli drivers on game release days or weeks for that matter !:rolleyes:
 
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