Got plenty of those in stock too.
Was wondering when those were coming out... hadn't checked in a while, now they're here!
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** NVIDIA GTX 1080 FOUNDERS EDITION: WANNA PRE-ORDER?
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Was wondering when those were coming out... hadn't checked in a while, now they're here!
It's quite obvious why Nvidia showed it running so cool at the event, as it was the only way they could legitimise charging such a ridiculous price for it and not calling it what it is... a basic Reference card! Whoever came up with that bright idea should be sacked. History won't look back fondly on this, and it's not really going to engender much trust in the future at their claims.
My concern, as it has always been, is that there positioning of the FE at a premium £615+ price point could see AIB's go beyond that with their fancy custom solutions, when if Nvidia had simply called the FE a Reference and released it at the lower price in the first place, that wouldn't have been the case. Greed rules unfortunately!
That's clearly a pricing trick.
NVIDIA used to provide a MSRP equal to the price of the reference model. AIBs usually provided their own designs, used different hardware in their lower-end products and went lower than that.
This time NVIDIA changed things. Their usual "MSRP" which compares to before is actually $699, and lower-end custom cards can go cheaper as they usually did, all the way to $599 which is the advertised "MSRP" and in reality it's just the "lowest you can get it", and we should still expect the higher-end custom products will be priced higher than the reference model, as they always have been.
I keep hearing that some brands will have $599 cards out there very soon. I imagine they will be the lowest quality products, lowest binned GPUs, poorest quality power delivery on a reduced reference design, etc, not the usual non-reference overclocked models which improve on the reference model. If we want a non-reference model that's better than the reference, I get the feeling that we're going to have to pay more for it. I wouldn't be surprised if a "good" custom card will sell for close to £700 here.
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Has Jay2Cents says Nvidia was very wrong to show 67c they completely lied and made people believe in something that wasn't true.
Yup, that's exactly what I'm anticipating, although I'll be delighted if wrong! It always made ZERO economic sense to me that you would get a vastly superior card for significantly less money... when has that EVER happened? It would only hurt sales of the FE, in fact they'd just die... no one would buy them if you could get far better cards for more than £50 less!!
There are potentially going to be countless irate and furious gamers out there soon though, as clearly many are expecting £550 max for a high end AIB custom card, but I fear this may be pure fantasy. We shall see...
You must have watched a different video to me then because he definitely didn't say they completely lied at all in the one I just watched. He did say that he thought it was a mistake for them to show the temp though.
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Maybe I worded that wrong, I ment
Has Jay2Cents says Nvidia was very wrong to show 67c. I think they completely lied and made people believe in something that wasn't true.
No, they didn't lie, because no doubt that was a genuine result, but it wasn't honest and they thoroughly mis-represented things as we have no idea what their set-up was... they could easily have had fans on 100% (sounding like a leaf blower) and the card on an open test bench. Hardly representative of how 99.9% of people will be using their cards at home! No caveats or conditions were mentioned though, and understandably that's given people the wrong impression as to the performance capability of the card. So no, not a lie, but not honest either, and as I previously mentioned it's quite obvious why they did it.
JayZ obviously hasn't seen the interview with Tom where he outright said the fan was at 100% during the presentation.
This guy calls himself a tech expert and he hasn't even done his research.
We expect these youtubers and bloggers to be clued up when in actual fact they don't have a clue, they are no better than me or you on this forum.
Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtely2GDxhU&feature=youtu.be&t=35m37s
This guy calls himself a tech expert and he hasn't even done his research.
We expect these youtubers and bloggers to be clued up when in actual fact they don't have a clue, they are no better than me or you on this forum.
Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtely2GDxhU&feature=youtu.be&t=35m37s
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NVidia did not lie, they used a situation which most people who game would find totally unrealistic.
I could get a 1080 to run at 20c but it may take OcUK a while to send it to me at the South Pole.
the definition of "pre order" means "place an order for (an item) before it is available for purchase"
So how is "pre ordering" on day of release actually pre ordering????
As i can go collect one in a shop Friday morning so whats pre about it?
Because 37 seconds after launch all the stock will be gone.
Do we know for certain the custom cards will be using GDDR5X? I thought it was in short supply, so the custom cards might be faster on the core, but a lot slower on the memory if GDDR5. This will make them cheaper.
Whats more concerning for me is not that it's throttling (that's bad enough) but the temp that it's throttling at! 82 degrees? really? how delicate is this chip? I've run previous cards at 90 degrees for years on end (in very poor case setup's). This card needs to throttle at 82?? Pretty sure my card doesn't throttle till 90 something. My CPU wont throttle till up near 100. So why is this Nvidia chip so delicate?
I'm really disappointed in this card/launch to be honest. I was hoping for a card priced similar to the 980, with close to 1.7x Titan performance (as advertised) and obviously no thermal throttling lol. Alas The card is plagued with ridiculous pricing, thermal throttling, potentially very little overclocking headroom and in certain instances, only a couple of % faster than an overclocked 980Ti. And all this before it's even hit the shelves... Very disappointing. I've said it before and I'll say it again, there is no way this card is shaping up to be a "legendary" card that's remembered for years to come. I hope the 1080Ti is much better.
I'm really disappointed in this card/launch to be honest. I was hoping for a card priced similar to the 980, with close to 1.7x Titan performance (as advertised) and obviously no thermal throttling lol. Alas The card is plagued with ridiculous pricing, thermal throttling, potentially very little overclocking headroom and in certain instances, only a couple of % faster than an overclocked 980Ti. And all this before it's even hit the shelves... Very disappointing. I've said it before and I'll say it again, there is no way this card is shaping up to be a "legendary" card that's remembered for years to come. I hope the 1080Ti is much better.
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Maxwell is the same, Nvidia have set their cards to throttle at 83°C.
AMD decided 95°C was a safe level for the 290x, even though the dual 295x2 actually throttles at 75°C....
I'm sure the Nvidia chip could go hotter if they wanted it to. They just build in a bigger safety margin.
AMD decided 95°C was a safe level for the 290x, even though the dual 295x2 actually throttles at 75°C....
I'm sure the Nvidia chip could go hotter if they wanted it to. They just build in a bigger safety margin.
I seriously doubt we will see the 1080 with gddr5 in the mix. Would surly dilute the 1080 as a card and they know people will fork over the extra cash anyways for custom models. Simple fact is no matter the price demand at least initially for founders and aftermarket designs will handily outstrip supply and we wil see it reflected in the price.
Not our site yet, NDA lifts early next week if I remember, but I am in Far East so one of my slaves *cough* co-workers best remember to launch them on the site.
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82 degrees is the normal point at which boost reduces and the card runs at standard base clock speeds. I actually disagree this is thermal throttling, rather a limitation on over clocking as its still running at base clock speeds, unlike cards which do actually thermal throttle and dip under base clock speeds.
Having said that, is it great, no not really. But not sure what was expected when Refrence design on 980Ti's and Titan X's also behaved similar. Boost clock often reduced and had you running at base clock speeds. Either A) ramp up the fan manually or B) get aftermarket design. Simple.
The fact it reduces to base clock speed does not mean there is no headroom. For lol's I held the blower fan on one of my Titan X's and between the 83 degrees the card reduced to base clock speeds and 91 degrees the limit quoted by Nvidia, the card held base clock speeds no issue. Only when it got to 91 degrees did it actually thermal throttle and reduce to under base clock speeds.
I think if your disappointed by the founders edition 1080, you will be with the founders edition 1080 Ti / Pascal Titan. Both will suffer similarly in regards to temps.
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So they want £620 for a card that isn't even that good 