The EU Referendum: Polling Day

[Domi]

In this country we've been spoiled by the general lack of corruption in our society, we're far too trusting of people in power to do the right thing and not abuse that power. We only need to look at the recent FIFA scandal to see power can corrupt, and that sort of corruption in somewhere like the EU would be much harder to do anything about

To be honest I am strongly in the remain camp and very much for the EU but I am a long way from trying to say the EU has no corruption problem.

The EU is a long way from being perfect but anybody thinking we have a perfect system just needs to take a long hard look at this whole referendum and how badly it has been handled.

Our government is perfectly capable of being very shady (both sides) and I personally am quite happy that we get a small amount of checks and balance from the EU.

 

[kibblerok]

Where's the poll? Thought there would be one today and there was talk on one on the first page?

 

[datalol-jack]

Absolutely buzzin'! The weather is glorious, the vote is out in massive numbers and we're outvoting the chancers locally. Glad I got involved. If Quitters have a light brigade, now's the time to charge, lol. The polls close in just over an hour.

 

[StriderX]

Absolutely buzzin'! The weather is glorious, the vote is out in massive numbers and we're outvoting the chancers locally. Glad I got involved. If Quitters have a light brigade, now's the time to charge, lol. The polls close in just over an hour.

That is sad, offence intended.

 

[jl10000]

I agree with Zethor. But we elect people who are experts in their field (economics, politics whatever)

No we don't. Our chancellor is not an expert in his field, for example.

 

[johnny6]

Voted in but kind of hoping for an out result.

Just to shut up all the people who have suddenly become conspiracy nut jobs claiming the government won't allow an out result, it's all been predetermined and PENCILS!!!!!!!!!!

I shall then spend the next couple of decades laughing at said people when it slowly dawns on them that voting out hasn't made a hill of beans difference to the very reasons why they voted out in the first place. Such as

Better NHS because under funding/poor use of funding regardless.
Cheaper housing because supply and demand.
Immigration because not all people come from the EU or legally.

 

[Freakbro]

So you voted for democracy and sovereignty by opting for the option that aims to take both those hard fought freedoms away? Yeah, that makes complete sense.

But hey, each to their own and all that.

Some people have explained many times why they fundamentally disagree with the opinion that the EU is undemocratic and why a nation state still keeps sovereignty within the union.

Now, you may equally disagree with that position, but just to understand that is their (subjective) position would then make that post have complete sense.

 

[sityeuropa]

the £ is moving up.

 

[Roar87]

Agreed, and that's why I think having two branches of government influence is less risky than having one with absolute control.

The answer is small local government that is easily voted out, large organisations with lots of money and power are magnets for corruption. I wonder how much some of those EU ministers are getting on expenses

 

[Cosimo]

Led Zeppelin win their Stairway to Heaven lawsuit.

Good news.

 

[Freakbro]

No we don't. Our chancellor is not an expert in his field, for example.

What about the civil servants under him who do all the actual work and present him with the options, since he's just the figurehead, are they experts?

Actually, that turned into a genuine question are the civil servants in the relevant departments educated/experts in their field?

If not, then the system really is *******

 

[hardkore]

I'm an out voter and can see both sides of the argument. However, I've not heard a peep about the trans Atlantic trade deal between the US and Europe.

Surely that's a massive issue for both parties to at least acknowledge?

 

[datalol-jack]

That is sad, offence intended.

Close, but no straight banana. The Beeb should be going live shortly after the close of play. Nobody's sleeping tonight! I'll be staying up purely for the snivelling mea culpas, paranoia and forum vendettas. You are welcome to join me with your hat, sir.

 

[John40]

Good news.

Yes it is, I put it here as I thought nobody is looking at anything else.

 

[kibblerok]

the £ is moving up.

Been flat the last few hours but up a bit the last few minutes - as there's no official exit polls I'm watching that as a guide as a few hedge funds have apparently commissioned their own private polls

 

[Deleted member 2277]

Voted remain and immediately regretted it! In principle I am broadly in favour of Brexit, because I think the EU is corrupt, inefficient and incredibly undemocratic. (I don't really care about migration per se as it doesn't effect me, though I do think more targeted migration would be preferable). but voted remain because I am scared of the economic consequences. Feel a bit cowardly.

Let's just hope remain don't win by one vote then.

 

[Housey]

il go 57.9% remain, closest wins.. loser buys the beers?

Done

 

[fornowagain]

#IVotedLeave Trending UK #1 on Twitter, not that it means anything.

 

[estebanrey]

No, I'm not advocating a technocracy, I'm advocating having politicians that do their job rather than hiding behind popular wisdom.

China is not run by technocrats, it is run by feudal lords.

You are saying that whether we should remain or leave the EU is too complex a matter for the general public though, yeah?

 

[Btone]

how binding is this Referendum, lets say it a close call, and what ever side wins by say 54% to 46%. now as a fallout the government falls and we have a general election and the winning party get 70% of the vote by promising that they reverse the referendum vote. could they do it ?