Sweden are one of the next countries expected to leave the EU.
Poll: The Official OcUK EU Referendum Exit poll (and results discussion thread)
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Sweden are one of the next countries expected to leave the EU.
Soldato
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You can't give up before you've started either.
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How many people believe the EU is run by unelected bureaucrats? I haven't that line recently.
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And I wasn't picking on you for what happened today. But this is the truth people want to come here. We don't want them to come here and we don't want to go there.
Therefore how can we equitably balance that?
In fact I apologied to an Asian girl today at macdonalds after some deaf white guy had a bit of a rant in her ear as he thought that she has skipped the queue or something. And my gf is Russian.
I am not a racist but I understand that people are upset that so many people come here from abroad and take jobs.
For countries who take money from the EU and are a net taker should not have had freedom of movement. Only those who contributed should have had the full benefits. This would have solved the issue.
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The labour party once again amuse me.
Their leader, voted in by the will of the common labour voter, was a rather euro skeptic person, he brought himself to say remain, but just about, and didnt jump up and down for it, while the vast majority of the parlimentary party raved for remain.
Labour voters then didnt vote remain, and the parlimentary party blame the leader.
I fear once again labour parlimentarians are completely at odds with grass root party supporters and dont even realise it.
The seem to think their own labour supporters didnt do as told, because they were told it enough or loudly enough. Rather than actaully react to peoples fears, desires and mainly complaints, and sort fact from fiction for their voters.
Many have voted for this on an economic basis, and clearly have no clue as to potential implications, and should jobs go, and them be hit hardest will blame the conservatives, rather than blame themselves for their own votes.
I will be very interested in what the main divides are come the next election, as the conservatives shouldn't have their natural euro philic euro skptic split, as there is nothing to be split upon.
Their only split will be how hard to punish the working man, and how much tomfoolery they can get away with in the name of big business and making overall deals that are bad for the country but can be sold to the county as good.
See ttip for the uk equivalent now, awfully worried they will,screw that up for the forthcoming generations.
Their leader, voted in by the will of the common labour voter, was a rather euro skeptic person, he brought himself to say remain, but just about, and didnt jump up and down for it, while the vast majority of the parlimentary party raved for remain.
Labour voters then didnt vote remain, and the parlimentary party blame the leader.
I fear once again labour parlimentarians are completely at odds with grass root party supporters and dont even realise it.
The seem to think their own labour supporters didnt do as told, because they were told it enough or loudly enough. Rather than actaully react to peoples fears, desires and mainly complaints, and sort fact from fiction for their voters.
Many have voted for this on an economic basis, and clearly have no clue as to potential implications, and should jobs go, and them be hit hardest will blame the conservatives, rather than blame themselves for their own votes.
I will be very interested in what the main divides are come the next election, as the conservatives shouldn't have their natural euro philic euro skptic split, as there is nothing to be split upon.
Their only split will be how hard to punish the working man, and how much tomfoolery they can get away with in the name of big business and making overall deals that are bad for the country but can be sold to the county as good.
See ttip for the uk equivalent now, awfully worried they will,screw that up for the forthcoming generations.
It's time for the entire 800 year old system to be modernised or replaced.
We're about to replace one member of the Bullingdon Club with another member of the Bullingdon Club as our Prime Minister, if the bookies are to be believed. The Conservatives will still be in power and big business will still call the shots.
Leaving the EU isn't going to get you the magical unicorn that you're wishing for.
I'm not giving up, I just don't think that optimism is a substitute for a plan that aligns with the various treaties that are in place for this type of situation.
"We'll be fine we are Great Britain and we don't need to be told what to do" is not an exit strategy.
At the cost of dividing the country? Those crazy Swedes.
A good portion of Muslims I asked voted leave and they're reasoning: "useless Romanians scrounging benefits". An Indian guy said the same thing.
It's still racially motivated. Minority on minority, very disheartening.
WE should have had proportional representation years ago, 23% of the vote to gain a majority? no wonder people feel so disillusioned.
Also having more people in coalition from smaller parties help keep the bigger ones in line.
Bingo
The most worrying thing is that there is not even an iota of an idea what the exit strategy should be. Recipe for disaster!
Revolt !
We're essentially going to get significantly lower new foreign investment into the UK over the next couple of years, because no country/company will be insane enough to invest into a country that has no confirmed direction or agreements in place. Thereafter we're going to have to work like ****ing crazy to attract this type of investment into the country, and that's likely to mean pandering and bending over to big businesses.
And that's not going to happen any time soon. Both the Conservatives and Labour stand to lose out if we move to PR so they will never propose it.
I do agree with you entirely though. I think this referendum has shown that when people feel that their vote actually matters, they head to the polling stations in droves.
Netherlands will be the next one.
You will get these community frictions when you have mass migration I'm afraid - it's why immigration for me has always been primarily a numbers game. We had the same with white/black/south Asian communities in the 60s, 70s & 80s, why would we expect it to be any different with eastern European immigration in the noughties? We never learn.
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