Poll: The Official OcUK EU Referendum Exit poll (and results discussion thread)

[Glaucus]

You can say the same about both sides given millions of people voted.

I don't recall anyone disagreeing with the referendum beforehand.

plenty of people disagreed about giving the public referendum, on the basis it was to complicated and population wasn't educated enough on it.

 

[do_ron_ron]

I laughed at the arguments put on here too and the opposite they were saying at the previous referendum.

 

[Fuggan]

I am from germany and I am really sad that you leave the EU. But I wish you the best for the future.

I believe, GB leaving the EU is a loose/loose situation

<3

 

[Caged]

You can say the same about both sides given millions of people voted.

I don't recall anyone disagreeing with the referendum beforehand.

I can't see how your responses are a response to me, sorry

If there people are voting leave in the referendum because they don't like Muslims, then those people won't be placated by us leaving the EU - they just might end up poorer. So the issue hasn't gone away, it's just waiting for another 'man of the people' politician to capitalise on it. Which worries me.

 

[McPhee]

Remain.

Have they? I didn't see, please quote.

Plus you seem to agree with me...

If you're of the opinion that stroppy types in the media are throwing their toys out of the pram by trying to stoke resentment between one group and another then yes, we probably do agree.

I'm just not sure the appropriate response is to play their game.

 

[TaKeN]

Not too sure what were going to sell though

Quality meat, Dairy Products?

 

[Slackjaw190]

Quality meat, Dairy Products?

not really high value goods

 

[Efour]

if the Uk negotiates a decent trade deal but with allowing a free movement caveat will you guys be happy ?

 

[Tosno]

If you're of the opinion that stroppy types in the media are throwing their toys out of the pram by trying to stoke resentment between one group and another then yes, we probably do agree.

I'm just not sure the appropriate response is to play their game.

I'm defending old people against the all knowing youth. The poll keep being posted here is not true as it's private. Misinformation to rally uneducated remain voters.

 

[itchy]

The idea that because someone is old it automatically means they have relevant life skills that somehow mean they are able to better evaluate the referendum options is stupid as well.

What a stupid comment to make!

I was thick when I was 20, I knew nothing but drugs and having a good time.
Now am 43 going on 44 I know more than most at my age.

Age is relevant as you experience life and deal with the good and the bad life brings to the table.

I was 1 when we joined the common market, which I agree with but the EU became bigger and more greedy without any ones opinion or say so.

I don't like Cameron but, I will take my hat off to him for giving use the democratic voice that we needed to have.

I bet the queen is giddy with excitement.

 

[Jokester]

This has been around for years. What is new? The situation just keeps on being kicked down the field in the hope that the world economy will pick up and solve the situation.

What's new? Guess you haven't seen that Greek banks value dropped 30% before trading had to be stopped then? Some Italian banks dropped 20-25% - ones that haven't needed to be bailed out so far but instead were able to soldier on. That'll change now.

There is a limit to the deals the EU can give to the UK. We have gone to the limit and now said goodbye. We are no longer in the club, we are just going to settle the legal issues.

We haven't actually said good bye yet. We've instructed the government we wish to leave, it's upto them to either do that or negotiate a better solution for all parties involved.

A few years ago the Irish people instructed their government they didn't wish to accept the Treaty of Nice, what happened?

would lead to a revolt in this country as the democratic wishes would have been ignored and the Tory Party would go into meltdown. Your premise may have been accurate if we had stayed in and negotiated something but we are out and cannot be treated as a special case. Not going to happen.

If a different deal is on the table there could easily be another referendum, one which could result in us remaining in the EU and preventing the sorry Eurozone imploding and bringing the EU with it.

 

[TaKeN]

not really high value goods

The NFU thought it played a major part back in 2014..

 

[Caged]

if the Uk negotiates a decent trade deal but with allowing a free movement caveat will you guys be happy ?

Since that would happen in a dream where I have full control of everything, yeah sure.

 

[arctine]

What a stupid comment to make!

I was thick when I was 20, I knew nothing but drugs and having a good time.
Now am 43 going on 44 I know more than most at my age.

Age is relevant as you experience life and deal with the good and the bad life brings to the table.

I was 1 when we joined the common market, which I agree with but the EU became bigger and more greedy without any ones opinion or say so.

I don't like Cameron but, I will take my hat off to him for giving use the democratic voice that we needed to have.

I bet the queen is giddy with excitement.

Being less stupid than you were at 20 =/= more informed on something that leading researchers can't even be sure about.

 

[The Mad Rapper]

Did you suffer memory loss in the last 10 minutes?

I'll give you a personal example.

My grandmother, bless her, detests the Japanese, she does not trust them, at all. Why? because she was under their occupation during WW2. (can't blame her for her views and can understand where it comes from). Do you think that thinking is relevant today? I personally love to go to Japan, see the culture and everyone I know tells me Japanese are the nicest people, so friendly and helpful.

Who do I trust?

I meant they'd have a better understanding of life in a non-EU UK over a teen or early twenties person who has never known any different. So what exactly is your problem with that? It's fact

 

[RoboCod]

Did you suffer memory loss in the last 10 minutes?

I'll give you a personal example.

My grandmother, bless her, detests the Japanese, she does not trust them, at all. Why? because she was under their occupation during WW2. (can't blame her for her views and can understand where it comes from). Do you think that thinking is relevant today? I personally love to go to Japan, see the culture and everyone I know tells me Japanese are the nicest people, so friendly and helpful.

Who do I trust?

Indeed. My own grandparents (who live in Scotland quite interestingly) and are English said to me the other day "you better be voting leave! Not so long ago Germany tried to control Europe, the nazis nearly won. Be sure to vote out!!". They're Pro REMAIN for Scotland in the UK though... Hmm.

I was startled and also ashamed of them but clearly there was no point discussing the matter, there is no way they would alter their opinion now and we'd just end in an argument on the matter, so I just awkwardly chuckled and moved the topic along. Back then I was quite optimistic the leave vote didn't have a look in..... Oops.

 

[Glaucus]

if the Uk negotiates a decent trade deal but with allowing a free movement caveat will you guys be happy ?

nope, gdp is just one aspect.
if we voted in a government that cared about human, worker, environmental rights etc and didn't rip up all the progress the Eu has done and generally did what was good for the country then It would be ok.
but this vote will and already has had a massive destabilising event on the entire continent.

it will take many years to see how bad or good this is. but the signs do not look promising, for a start it looks likely the next PM will be someone who switched sides just for his career.
freemovement is generally a good idea, as long as some basic tenants are applied.

 

[Cern]

Quality meat, Dairy Products?

Our farming industry is currently propped up by EU subsidies.

Good luck taking on the might of the supermarkets without that support.

 

[Feronix]

It's a real shame that people are forced by law to engage in forum debates that they don't want to take part in.

Damn EU laws, luckily now he doesn't have to anymore.

 

[Hagar]

I am 63 and voted to leave. I voted for the EEC in 1975. I vote in every election for MP, MEP, council and police commissioner's. I made my choice based on my whole life experience and my current views on what is best for the whole of this country.

Immigration is a small factor for me. I do not mind people from all other countries being able to live, work and be educated here.

I do have a concern for the total size of the population however and its rate of growth. The UK has twice the population density of France, Spain etc.and is greater than that of Germany. Currently 65 million rising at 0.5 million per year.

I apologise if you feel that I have acted unfairly in this. You will have as many or more choices in life as I have had. I worked in non EEC Spain in 1979. I have travelled widely (with passport and appropriate visa as necessary).

I believe all countries should be able to make their own laws, control their borders and live peaceably with their neighbours.

Anyway I have no regrets and I made the correct choice.