The polish EU President said something that should scare all of the nations of Europe, he mentioned John Byng meaning that the UK will never be able to come back to the EU, its finished. this shows the mentality of the EU it will kill a state to stop others from leaving.
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The polish EU President said something that should scare all of the nations of Europe, he mentioned John Byng meaning that the UK will never be able to come back to the EU, its finished. this shows the mentality of the EU it will kill a state to stop others from leaving.
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I'm not being smug, and tbh to everyone I've spoken to who's said 'oh I bet you think I'm a **** for voting leave', I still respect them the same as I did before.
The leave campaigners however can **** off and die, the moment they got a win that they really should have prepared for they have all disappeared, no answers, no solutions just silence.
Worst part is the leavers of facebook gloating in their new found and momentary glory, the ones who haven't noticed that no one is left carrying the banner, and the tripe theyve been spouting has been outed as such the day after the referendum.
What happened to 'I am not going to repsond further because you simply don't get the politics involved '?
Yet apparently you've got a crystal ball and are able to state exactly what won't happen. Like I said I'll be happy to revisit this in a few months but it is just going around in circles now
He's providing a realistic outcome based on compromise.
Even if the UK and EU went to the table as equals (which they aren't) there would have to compromise and we know what the EU believes in the most.
Which in the long run may be the best course of action for the EU as it is an existential threat.
It isn't killing a state, it would simply be not extending the UK any discretionary courtesy. After all we would be the ones invoking Article 50.
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People have voted for a variety of reasons and a large potion were undecided for quite a while so both sides have a decent chunk of people who were conflicted... some sort of hybrid agreement could well be OK with them
Boris is going to try and appeal to them and pacify 'remain' supporting Tories... he's not likely to even bother to attempt to appeal to the likes of the Channel 4 Barnsley anti muslim man etc.. so there will likely still be a bunch of working class people in labour areas who voted leave and will still feel rather miffed
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And it's obvious why that is: until we started kicking up a fuss, we were actually pushing for this completion of a single market in services, and not to put too fine a point on it -- services are people; at least until you get your robots online doing white collar jobs.
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Blame the stupid doom and gloom media.
I don't think I've been smug (at least that wasn't what I was aiming for as it achieves nothing). Heck if you voted leave I don't judge people for it. Everyone's allowed an opinion it's just preferable when they can back up their opinion.
There's some idiots on both sides not only do I mean the racists and people abusing Boris I also mean the people who look down on all leave voters and the people who look down on remain voters as though they're some form of traitor toff.
No ones perfect.
When I say idiots there's certainly idiots on both sides who lack the ability to form an argument or counter argument. It's pretty obvious who these people are to all but themselves(me for example
).Yes there will have to be compromise, we're not going to be a member of the EU though and I've not once claimed anything about full access to the single market while stopping freedom of movement, which the other poster repeatedly kept using as some sort of straw man. I'd say EEA is a no, EFTA is unlikely given the free movement issue... some form of hybrid deal most likely. That is my prediction - it is a guess/opinion - at the present time it is not 'wrong'... we'll have to wait and see
Ahh good, another well structured and grown up post about how the people that voted to remain are babies...
amazing , as its in reply to yet another leftwing post about how all leavers are right wing racist bigots.....
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Yeah, the low prediction is for it to flop as low as 1.2 against the mighty dollar, a few pc at a time. The only consolation is that the euro is dropping lower. But then again, the EU has more to export.
LOL. Yes, because all the international financial community base their decisions on is our doom and gloom media.
Markets hate instability and uncertainty. Markets are easily spooked at the best of times. A major world economy leaving a major world trading bloc and taking an unknown leap into the dark is about as big as it gets where uncertainty is concerned.
I was getting at whatever has happened that racists have decided means it's now OK to be racist publicly and then assault people. If Boris presents a watered-down deal then it's going to get uglier.
Personally I wouldn't let the country be held ransom by a bunch of knuckle-draggers with little to nothing to offer, but I think it needs to be taken into consideration. Especially since the usual suspects in the press will try and derive maximum capital from portraying a deal as a failure/betrayal.
How long are you going to excuse any Brexit-vote negatives as being related to bad vibes as opposed to reactions to the actual vote?
To be fair it was on the first page you could have ignored it. We almost moved on from name calling in the last few pages
.Nicola Sturgeon it adding fuel to the fire in the markets, should should shut up for a while.
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Grown adults flap on Facebook over whose gut feeling was better at leading them to tick a box on a ballot paper. Grown adults in stressful jobs under a lot of pressure and faced with deep uncertainty make bad decisions and flap even harder. Rational markets? Ha ha, what an oxymoron!
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You think the pound is crashing because of the media?
Tis the evil lizard media owned by evil socialists frozen in time from the glorious Russian revolution before it all went sour, I tell you. Never Murdoch, though, he's a gleaming beacon of reasoned argument and sacred and self-evident truths that are easy for the average joe to understand.
Actually the uncertainty around whether the UK will actually leave the EU is what is keeping the £ and domestic markets partially propped up.
Can't remember who said it earlier, but what we have seen is nothing compared to what would happen when Article 50 gets invoked. The current prices reflect the chances of it happening and not happening.
However, uncertainty has other consequences which stops people investing as they want to wait and see what will happen, which reduces economic activity in the UK and EU.
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