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Again it hasn't been lowered. Project FEAR.
By the way, that headline came from Moody's... not the UK government or Remain camp... a US company.
Again it hasn't been lowered. Project FEAR.
Indeed the yare, D'oh,
Good find, i'll now back it up with some good viewing to cheer the Remain camp up. Fear not, Patrick Minford is here....
You'll be able to get the best staff now internationally, not just from within Europe. We'll be able to let in more people from the rest of the world.
Only the far right want referendums?
Oh so because it has been around for 40 years and Turkey, Croatia, Serbia and Kosovo wants to join it's all going well? Why do you think those countries would like to join?
Think the vast majority in Southern Europe would disagree that the EU is going well. A long with majority of the UK (who could be bothered to vote).
This is why the country should be run by the most intelligent amongst us, and not the people who study politics.
Geoffrey Robinson has written an article calling on people to lobby their MP to vote Brexit down. It would be bitterly ironic if Parliament demonstrated its sovereignty by voting down Brexit after all the blather from Leavers about sovereignty.
Article 50 won't happen. Is there anywhere I can bet on this? I'm willing to put a lot down.
I am really keen to, esp as my local MP is a Remain on, and Winchester voted to Remain (60%+). Any idea what exactly to write i.e. terminology, wording, etc?
Have you experienced racism first hand, directed at you? Is so you should be ashamed.
The crippling inability to do absolutely **** all about the colour of your skin or your country of origin? To have to accept that you will get abuse at any time from some racist ****tard over something you can do absolutely nothing about? More so now that this minority have been given a platform they feel it is acceptable to continue in greater numbers.
That some ***** thinks its acceptable to abuse (violently or otherwise) another person based on nothing other than small minded prejudice is acceptable to you? In fact the only reason they aren't abusing themselves is because they were 'lucky' enough to be born into a different race or are a different colour? Why is it their god-given right to have something just because they popped out of their mother's vagina at a particular place on the globe of a particular race or colour?
Your solution to this problem is to tell people who experience this discrimination is to suggest they should leave? Ask them why they bother putting up with the hatred? As if they're the problem?
Jesus Christ.
Something so important as this shouldn't have been decided on 50% of the vote. Should have been 60 or 70 to decide in or out.
I am really keen to, esp as my local MP is a Remain on, and Winchester voted to Remain (60%+). Any idea what exactly to write i.e. terminology, wording, etc?
Did you not quote my second sentence in order to make a fuss about nothing?
If it's that bad, and you know you cannot change it, then yes, it would be wiser to relocate. Trying to go against the tide is fruitless and will only serve to make your life miserable.
Once again, if it is so bad (with racism at every turn), why have you chosen to settle here rather than anywhere less so?
Did you not quote my second sentence in order to make a fuss about nothing?
If it's that bad, and you know you cannot change it, then yes, it would be wiser to relocate. Trying to go against the tide is fruitless and will only serve to make your life miserable.
Once again, if it is so bad (with racism at every turn), why have you chosen to settle here rather than anywhere less so?
I hate what I've become. I've become a massive sceptic about the real driving force behind the election and what it was meant to be. I generally want to believe that most politicians, regardless of their ideals, follow them because they are what they believe to be the best thing for the country.
For this? I'm not sure.
Gove and Boris are backtracking so heavily it sounds more and more like we will never enact article 50. I don't think they expected, nor wanted to win. I feel like this is an enormous powerplay where they looked for a narrow remain win to undermine current conservative leadership and take hold, never having to activate article 50. They signed the petition for cameron to stay, trying to make him be the one to enact it if god forbid, leave actually won, and that failed. Cameron has passed a 'poison chalice' as many have said, to the next leader.
Enact article 50, commit economic and political suicide. Don't enact it, commit political suicide. Both massively destabilise the country and there's no 'win' anywhere for the people who really are impacted by this. We're going to stay in the EEA. We're going to have freedom of movement. We're going to have single market access. The only question is whether Boris and co have the dignity to shoot down the idea entirely and stay as a full EU member - EEA membership gives us less control, more (relative) fees, and nigh on everything leave fought for (*some* law control excluded).
The person that loses, in an EEA situation, is a person in an area where there are heavy EU rebates - ie, a hell of a lot of the areas which voted leave. This doesn't impact the 'big' remain demographic - educated, mid-high earners in cities. It has zero imapct on them. It hits Cornwall, it hits Wales.
The alternative? Enact article 50, throw the country into disarray for years to come, screw *everybody*.
Article 50 won't happen. Is there anywhere I can bet on this? I'm willing to put a lot down.
Did you not quote my second sentence in order to make a fuss about nothing?
If it's that bad, and you know you cannot change it, then yes, it would be wiser to relocate. Trying to go against the tide is fruitless and will only serve to make your life miserable.
Once again, if it is so bad (with racism at every turn), why have you chosen to settle here rather than anywhere less so?
Short term loss as a consequence was said many times.
I think you have the wrong person.
I voted in and I think we're in for a really tough time for the foreseeable future.
I have a problem with the leavers complaining that the remainers are voicing their worry for our future only for the fact that all the brexiters (in this thread included) are just saying "we'll be fine, don't worry" without giving anything at all to back it up.
I do agree, however, that we buckle down and figure this out together. We have to accept that we are leaving and look to the future (no matter how bad it looks).
Just a question to remainers mostly because I'm interested in their motivations.
Did you vote remain because you are happy with the way things are right now, or are you happy with the future course of more EU policy, integration leading to the EU superstate?
What is your ideal vision of Europe?
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Osborne came out today and said they were fully prepared for what has happened, if Cameron doesn't have a solid timeline of events planned out then that's not Leave's fault, it's his as Prime Minister.
Just a question to remainers mostly because I'm interested in their motivations.
Did you vote remain because you are happy with the way things are right now, or are you happy with the future course of more EU policy, integration leading to the EU superstate?
What is your ideal vision of Europe?
Did you not quote my second sentence in order to make a fuss about nothing?
If it's that bad, and you know you cannot change it, then yes, it would be wiser to relocate. Trying to go against the tide is fruitless and will only serve to make your life miserable.
Once again, if it is so bad (with racism at every turn), why have you chosen to settle here rather than anywhere less so?