The next Labour leader thread

Tunney · 28 Jun 2016 at 14:41

I'd vote for her.

Mr Jack · 28 Jun 2016 at 14:43

Tunney said:
I'd vote for her.

I want her fronting our Brexit negotiations team.

StriderX · 28 Jun 2016 at 15:46

Pat Glass resigning as MP, good riddance, considering Durham was ~60/40 leave.

RaohNS · 28 Jun 2016 at 16:09

Richdog said:
I meant every word, he is a walking disaster.

Might need go to Specsavers to see what the bigger picture is.

Out of curiosity and to highlight your lack of understanding why is he a walking disaster?

datalol-jack · 28 Jun 2016 at 16:12

Do you have the split for her supporters though? You can proxy these numbers, but they aren't precise or easily available to keyboard ninjas.

RaohNS · 28 Jun 2016 at 16:13

KingOfTheDaves said:
People in this thread have mentioned the support that Corbyn has in the wider Labour party from his landslide leadership win in stark contrast to the turmoil inside the PLP, but does the wider support still exist?

I was a Corbyn supporter, but after his abject showing in the referendum campaign I am no longer.

Whether Corbyn personally wants to be in the EU or not, one of his main jobs as leader of the opposition is to point out the faults of the government and offer an alternate view.

For example, one of the main issues in the referendum for Brexit supporters was the reduction or strain in local services, with population growth from immigration a major factor in this reduction.

Why the hell did Corbyn and the rest of the Labour party not point out that the lack of services is primarily the result of the Conservative austerity agenda not population growth? Labour pro-remainers should have been banging that drum for months in the run up to the referendum. It was free hits against the Tories but it was never mentioned.

Whether you are brexit or remainer, at least do your job as leader of the opposition! And for that reason alone I no longer support Corbyn.

I see your position. Corbyn opted for Remain to keep the party together. Somewhat understandable given the Blairites loathe him. Equally he was never given a platform much by the media. Their plans are now turning full circle now the democracy has spoken.

Why didn't Corbyn point it out? Have you watched any of PMQT? He raises items like this regularly. It might be difficult hear over the din and booing.

Cosimo · 28 Jun 2016 at 16:20

Tunney said:
I'd vote for her.[/QUOTE]

Would that be after she'd given you a squeeze?

Corbyn vote to be announced at 17:00.

Pudney · 28 Jun 2016 at 16:23

RaohNS said:
I see your position. Corbyn opted for Remain to keep the party together. Somewhat understandable given the Blairites loathe him. Equally he was never given a platform much by the media. Their plans are now turning full circle now the democracy has spoken.

Why didn't Corbyn point it out? Have you watched any of PMQT? He raises items like this regularly. It might be difficult hear over the din and booing.

PMQs is completely different to a referendum campagin trail. For one the referendum had significant media presence and they didn't capitalise on it. PMQs are week in week out and the public at large rarely pays much attention to it.

Corbyn is a poor leader within the establishment. Quite frankly I think he'd be better off supporting one of his colleagues who has a similar mindset to him and taking the fight to the people because he is good at talking on the issues at hand.

StriderX · 28 Jun 2016 at 16:30

They could just make Jo Cox honorary Leader and the Blairites would probably agree with it.

jimjamuk · 28 Jun 2016 at 16:30

Why couldn't have Corbyn said at the beginning of this referendum that he personally felt we should leave but the Party line is to stay and as he is captain he would support that. He would have been a winner either way

datalol-jack · 28 Jun 2016 at 16:34

He did let a few of his MPs campaign on the other side. I haven't heard any claims of Labour HQ's wrongdoing from their end.

Catanonia · 28 Jun 2016 at 16:37

172 vs 40 vote in for no confidence.

RDM · 28 Jun 2016 at 16:38

Catanonia said:
172 vs 40 vote in for no confidence.

So just about enough have confidence in him to form a shadow cabinet...

Do we know how JC voted?

Gilly · 28 Jun 2016 at 16:39

Catanonia said:
172 vs 40 vote in for no confidence.

I'm assuming the 172 have stated no confidence?

If it goes to a leadership vote it's likely Corbyn will win again. We'll either be looking at a breakup of Labour or those MPs that have left their roles coming back, tails between their legs.

Cosimo · 28 Jun 2016 at 16:39

Catanonia said:
172 vs 40 vote in for no confidence.

TV saying he needs 50 to get on the ballot.

Gilly · 28 Jun 2016 at 16:40

Cosimo said:
TV saying he needs 50 to get on the ballot.

Ooooh I thought it was less than that.

datalol-jack · 28 Jun 2016 at 16:40

RDM said:
So just about enough have confidence in him to form a shadow cabinet...

Do we know how JC voted?

For him it was always 7/10.

StriderX · 28 Jun 2016 at 16:41

Cosimo said:
TV saying he needs 50 to get on the ballot.

Hes automatically on it, regardless of the vague nature of the statute, as otherwise he could just bring it to court and that stalls the whole thing til its finished.

datalol-jack · 28 Jun 2016 at 16:41

Gilly said:
Ooooh I thought it was less than that.

I thought it was 36, for some reason. But the vote is not binding.

StriderX said:
Hes automatically on it, regardless of the vague nature of the statute, as otherwise he could just bring it to court and that stalls the whole thing til its finished.

This too, because he hasn't resigned.

RavenXXX2 · 28 Jun 2016 at 16:42

He quits or the party will split.