The next Conservative Leader thread.

FuriousGeorge · 1 Jul 2016 at 12:51

Any time Gove speaks he just sounds more and more like this.

Radeon Wattman · 1 Jul 2016 at 12:53

Apparently its because Murdoch is not a fan, and was planning to release a scandal about his private life, regardless of whether it had any merit or not

EddScott · 1 Jul 2016 at 12:54

How anyone can think putting Labour back in control is a good thing is beyond me.

You need a conservative government to pay for a labour one and we haven't finished paying for the last labour government.

FuriousGeorge · 1 Jul 2016 at 12:55

EddScott said:
How anyone can think putting Labour back in control is a good thing is beyond me.

You need a conservative government to pay for a labour one and we haven't finished paying for the last labour government.

Good Lord.

Still with this nonsense?

Billies Bangers · 1 Jul 2016 at 13:04

{T5K}TT said:
So Gove decided to go it alone, but I wonder why Johnson did not just stand regardless?

A little bird from News Corp so it is rumoured and Tory Grandee's.

Billies Bangers · 1 Jul 2016 at 13:07

EddScott said:
How anyone can think putting Labour back in control is a good thing is beyond me.

You need a conservative government to pay for a labour one and we haven't finished paying for the last labour government.

I didn't realise that Labour were wholly responsible for the world recession of 2008. Lehman Bros will be furious with them.

McGray · 1 Jul 2016 at 13:08

EddScott said:
How anyone can think putting Labour back in control is a good thing is beyond me.

You need a conservative government to pay for a labour one and we haven't finished paying for the last labour government.

Jeez, people actually still believe this?

Mr Jack · 1 Jul 2016 at 13:09

EddScott said:
How anyone can think putting Labour back in control is a good thing is beyond me.

You need a conservative government to pay for a labour one and we haven't finished paying for the last labour government.

Actually, Conservative governments have consistently borrowed more, and paid back less, than Labour governments. Average GDP growth under Tory and Labour governments is statistically indistinguishable.

The idea that we need Tory governments to "pay" for Labour governments is nonsense. If anything it's the other way round, the Conservatives chronically under-invest and then we need Labour to literally fix the roof.

leaskovski · 1 Jul 2016 at 13:09

Greebo said:
A lot of Tory MPs believe he did a fantastic job in education..................

This is what I don't understand with Gove. The papers and parliment in general seem to think he did a good job, yet teachers and the like think he messed it up big style.

I dont know what to think.

Rroff · 1 Jul 2016 at 13:09

Wow watching that Theresa May statement... she seriously does not have this countries best interests at heart.

Darujhistan · 1 Jul 2016 at 13:15

I see Gideon has backtracked again. The political answer to the 3 gear Italian tank.

EddScott · 1 Jul 2016 at 13:16

Scoff all you like chaps. You miss understood me.

Labour wasn't responsible for the crisis.

Labour are responsible for a bloated public sector with higher than average salaries to ensure votes. The public sector pension bill is crippling us.

It's why conservatives appear to actually borrow more - they have to pay off what Labour do to the country.

Billies Bangers · 1 Jul 2016 at 13:20

Rroff said:
Wow watching that Theresa May statement... she seriously does not have this countries best interests at heart.

Please define 'best interests'. Personally I think she will do a decent job in an almost impossible situation.

If I had my way I would put the brexiteers in charge and say you got us into this mess now it's up to you to get us out.

doodah · 1 Jul 2016 at 13:21

Rroff said:
Wow watching that Theresa May statement... she seriously does not have this countries best interests at heart.

What's she spouting?

Billies Bangers · 1 Jul 2016 at 13:23

EddScott said:
Scoff all you like chaps. You miss understood me.

Labour wasn't responsible for the crisis.

Labour are responsible for a bloated public sector with higher than average salaries to ensure votes. The public sector pension bill is crippling us.

It's why conservatives appear to actually borrow more - they have to pay off what Labour do to the country.

What utter rot. The average gold plated civil service pension is £4,750 per year. Most of the civil service are women workers who get paid shocking wages, some below the national living wage. I don't call £15,000 to £18,000 per annum for full time work excessive do you?

SpeedFreak · 1 Jul 2016 at 13:27

Billies Bangers said:
What utter rot. The average gold plated civil service pension is £4,750 per year.

Source?

Rroff · 1 Jul 2016 at 13:28

doodah said:
What's she spouting?

Taking a very very authoritarian position over it - I might not have put it the best above - she was basically saying she'd be making a number of executive decisions whether people like it or not. It might technically be a good way for the country from a business perspective but little consideration for the people involved in the equation.

SpeedFreak · 1 Jul 2016 at 13:33

Rroff said:
Taking a very very authoritarian position over it - I might not have put it the best above - she was basically saying she'd be making a number of executive decisions whether people like it or not. It might technically be a good way for the country from a business perspective but little consideration for the people involved in the equation.

In a divided country I can't see what else she can do. If she panders to the loudest voices then she will achieve nothing.

Billies Bangers · 1 Jul 2016 at 13:35

SpeedFreak said:
Source?

Just ONE to keep you busy. There are plenty more online from various sources if you care to look.

Rroff · 1 Jul 2016 at 13:37

SpeedFreak said:
In a divided country I can't see what else she can do. If she panders to the loudest voices then she will achieve nothing.

For all I'm not a fan of Gove he still talked as if about a country full of people and not running it like a business (and nothing else) like May.