I've got to disagree with you. Farage has quit, his job done. Cameron has done the honourable thing and resigned. The Brexit Tories have turned on themselves, as politicians are wont, to fight for the top job. What did you expect would happen? Sure the king-in-waiting, Boris, got knifed, but that's politics.
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Hmm, what do you expect should happen? Things are moving forward
The government is sorting itself out with a new leader then that leader will start to tackle the next phase of leaving the EU alongside leading the countryAm assuming you don't work in central gov then this is probably why you haven't been personally contacted with a project plan for exit. Instead you listen to the media and all the bias that brings and assume you are in the know and that no one understands what's going on
Most of us cant be bothered to argue anymore because its the same old. This thread just goes around in cycles with the anti change lot refusing to accept a decision. Meanwhile the visionaries who can see beyond this are staying quiet, allowing phase 1 of government stabilisation to complete before the new gov who can start to legally make decisions move us forwards.
... And to add; change isn't easy. Think of any project, house refurbishment, introducing a new policy in the workplace, implementing a new motorway or national railway. Things are difficult, take time but if the majority believe then it can be achieved.
Its not fair to say exclude people from having a view because they're on the dole or are just a mother or work in a factory. Everyone should have a view and a vote that is what makes ou country awesome. And their opinion means just as much as a bankers or a CEOs or a gov leader. Its our country and we take it forward in the best way we collectively believe in. Its a shame this seems to be so misunderstood by so many
Its not fair to say exclude people from having a view because they're on the dole or are just a mother or work in a factory. Everyone should have a view and a vote that is what makes ou country awesome. And their opinion means just as much as a bankers or a CEOs or a gov leader. Its our country and we take it forward in the best way we collectively believe in. Its a shame this seems to be so misunderstood by so many
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Your statement is so flawed I don't even know where to start so let's just begin with, do you honestly believe that these factory workers, people on the dole, angry old pensioners are visionaries?
Do you honestly think they will make try and make this vote work? I'll tell you what I believe and it the sad fact of this whole fiasco, it will be the remain voters who have to sort this mess out.
Do you honestly think they will make try and make this vote work? I'll tell you what I believe and it the sad fact of this whole fiasco, it will be the remain voters who have to sort this mess out.
Wow, what was Leadsom thinking going down the mother route? Hugely controversial thing to say in this day and age, and considering May's situation.
Could really be a big blow to her campaign this.
Also can't believe she is trying to blame the press - they played the recording this morning on the news and she said exactly what was printed and the journalist said she even brought up the whole family thing herself as well!
Could really be a big blow to her campaign this.
Also can't believe she is trying to blame the press - they played the recording this morning on the news and she said exactly what was printed and the journalist said she even brought up the whole family thing herself as well!
#LeadsomFacts on twitter is worth a giggle.
She doesn't seem to be doing herself any favours at the moment but as one MP backing Mrs May said "I think these comments are disgusting. I think it's going to insult a lot of Conservatives activists as well as a lot of nice, decent people" and it's going to be the former of those groups choosing.
She doesn't seem to be doing herself any favours at the moment but as one MP backing Mrs May said "I think these comments are disgusting. I think it's going to insult a lot of Conservatives activists as well as a lot of nice, decent people" and it's going to be the former of those groups choosing.
Yeah that was bad judgement on her part. When you listen to the recording and she says something like "I don;t want this to be used against May as that would be awful but..................."
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No it isn't. We are members of the EU and we have not activated Article 50 and neither has anyone confirmed when we will. Some of the considered options amount to pretty much being in the EU without officially being in it. His job is far from over - what he wanted has not happened yet. Yet he's gone. Why?
Because he had no idea what to do or say next. His entire modus operandi has been to spout well rehearsed soundbites safe in the knowledge what he said wouldn't ever need to be tested or ever have any real effect.
Then one day it does. And he quits!
This one made me laugh
"I think the Tories have put her up as candidate purely to make May look human in comparison"
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Hmm, what do you expect should happen? Things are moving forward
Am assuming you don't work in central gov then this is probably why you haven't been personally contacted with a project plan for exit. Instead you listen to the media and all the bias that brings and assume you are in the know and that no one understands what's going on
Most of us cant be bothered to argue anymore because its the same old. This thread just goes around in cycles with the anti change lot refusing to accept a decision. Meanwhile the visionaries who can see beyond this are staying quiet, allowing phase 1 of government stabilisation to complete before the new gov who can start to legally make decisions move us forwards.
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Last I checked Farage is not in government and thereby has zero input into what happens going forward.
Thanks for clarifying the obvious no. No idea what bearing it has on his question or my answer, though.
He's never had any input, hasn't stopped him being around has it?
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[TW]Fox;29759358 said:
When his term expires in 2017, and assuming we brexit as planned, Farage will aparently get a pension in the region of £5400 a month for his service in the European parliment, I believe this is paid in Euros, so might be worth a bit more come the event.
Not bad for a man who hated the system.
He gets 3.5% of salary for each year of mandate (to a maximum of 70%), that would be 18 -20 years of service so he'll get 63-70% of the monthly MEP salary of €8,213.02, which would make it €5174 to €5749. Paid from the age of 63.
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Nice to see he won't poor, unlike half the vote leave crowd who might depending what happeens investment i north of England now
Local paper are saying the Northeast councils are demanding their 600m they have just lost from the EU from the government and they claim twice they were promised by the leave campaigners that it was safe and would be replaced from Whitehall..............
so even the councils believed the lies then.............
Didn't anybody think to question that the people making the promises arent even in power and have now all deserted?
"Visionaries". LOL. Given the lies and deceit spouted during the referendum campaign and since, "delusionaries" would be more accurate.
You do realise the "new gov" are the old government just with a different leader? The cabinet will change of course, as cabinets do. But it's the same backbenchers, the majority of whom (cross-party) are Remainers. The Tory and Labour parties are both fractured internally and not united. Hardly a good situation to "legally make decisions" wouldn't you agree? Things are going nowhere fast. If you think this thread is going round in cycles, you're going to love the parliamentary merry-go-round to come.
A General Election might fix certain aspects of this, particularly by giving parliament a clearer mandate, but it's just as likely to result in a hung parliament and awkward coalitions.
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Is she making a big point of this mother business just because Theresa May is not?
Cameron is a father, his wife is a mother, didn't stop them and MI5 leaving one of the kids behind at the pub...
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In other news, our favourite challenger for the Tory throne has attacked the Times and gone on record denying her own recorded words as misinterpretation. I say! She's on full Brexit form!
Well, it's her female Trumpist's way of saying 'I've got family values', with the kids being her long-term stake in the future of this country and all. But you can also read it as a euphemism for 'I'll be tougher on the gay; I'll banish the gay; go nuclear families!' as some are doing.
Well, it's her female Trumpist's way of saying 'I've got family values', with the kids being her long-term stake in the future of this country and all. But you can also read it as a euphemism for 'I'll be tougher on the gay; I'll banish the gay; go nuclear families!' as some are doing.
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