84 Confirmed dead after another apparent terrorism attack in Nice, France,

Vargas said:
Thinking more along the lines of petrol lorries.
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ALways been an issue and closely watched. We once had a tanker stolen years ago, the police was all over it and we had some very high powered visitors.

They dont mess around f they think a petrol tanker has gone missing.
 
dowie said:
They'll just adapt as they usually do.

I think people will become less religious as societies carry on progressing... people with higher IQs are more likely to be non-religious than those with lower IQs, plenty of scientists have little time for religion.

However religions do seem to find workaround for all sorts of things from evolution to the fact the people who created Islam weren't aware of the issues people living close to say the north pole would face while fasting in Ramadan.
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Sadly, people with higher IQ tend to be better off financially, have a demanding career and have less time to procreate. Gutter scum pop sprogs out like it's going out of fashion... And these are the people more likely to be enticed into extremism
 
Amnesia said:
And they should be but most of the time people wont know....then what?
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They end up in a desert proclaiming their innocence and they like the victims suffer the actions of the terrorists. Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel's wife and children would be removed from the western world never to return. In the long run we would be slowly removing the Islamic threat of Terrorism to the west. Minds would be focused on the repercussions of terrorism, minds would be focused on stopping it happening.

At the moment we can continue to carry on as normal but in the end there will be a backlash and government will be powerless to act. Rounded up and sent packing on mass or act now and get rid of the nutters?
 
Orcish-Horde said:
They end up in a desert proclaiming their innocence and they like the victims suffer the actions of the terrorists. Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel's wife and children would be removed from the western world never to return. In the long run we would be slowly removing the Islamic threat of Terrorism to the west. Minds would be focused on the repercussions of terrorism, minds would be focused on stopping it happening.

At the moment we can continue to carry on as normal but in the end there will be a backlash and government will be powerless to act. Rounded up and sent packing on mass or act now and get rid of the nutters?
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Yep perfect solution and then we wonder why these terrorists carry out these attacks.

Well thought out genius, let's punish the innocent people who just happen to be related to these scumbags by putting them in a desert through no fault of their own.

If you honestly believe your ludicrous solution will eradicate the threat of these terrorist attacks then you are so sadly mistaken. It will not change a thing as these terrorists don't give a care about their loved ones let alone the ones they are killing.
 
Yas786 said:
Yep perfect solution and then we wonder why these terrorists carry out these attacks.

Well thought out genius, let's punish the innocent people who just happen to be related to these scumbags by putting them in a desert through no fault of their own.

If you honestly believe your ludicrous solution will eradicate the threat of these terrorist attacks then you are so sadly mistaken. It will not change a thing as these terrorists don't give a care about their loved ones let alone the ones they are killing.
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Maybe the threat of such repercussions would encourage all the good Muslims we hear about to start turning in and reporting extremism rather than tolerating it. It is barbaric and sinking to 'their' level though.

After all, The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
 
Janesy B said:
Maybe the threat of such repercussions would encourage all the good Muslims we hear about to start turning in and reporting extremism rather than tolerating it. It is barbaric and sinking to 'their' level though.

After all, The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
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Erm from what I understand in several of the recent high profile cases those closest to the criminals have expressed concerns to the police previously (and the person was already on a list).

Unfortunately a lot of the time it's hard for someone to tell if someone else is going to commit a terrorist act or is just having other problems (for example in several cases the person had split from family or was having other problems).

For example the guy in Florida expressed a hatred of LGBT and said things like it was disgusting that they were kissing in public, however without knowing that he was also buying up guns and ammo it probably wouldn't have rang any particular alarm bells given that it's the sort of comment the Republican and far right in America make on a regular basis (based on religious reasons various politicians and clergy have made comments about gay being evil and should be stamped out

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Janesy B said:
Maybe the threat of such repercussions would encourage all the good Muslims we hear about to start turning in and reporting extremism rather than tolerating it. It is barbaric and sinking to 'their' level though.

After all, The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
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Somehow I don't think terrorists go about openly telling people that they area about to commit an act of terror.
There is just no way for people to guess what someone is about to do.
 
dowie said:
Nawaz seems to be ignored by some in the Muslim community partly because he's happy to admit there are issues within Islam, is happy to call for reform and happy to challenge conservative views instead of parroting the usual part line that every Islamist terrorist is absolutely nothing to do with Islam.
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Muslims dislike Nawaz because they see in him the future of Islam in the west, and it’s not miserable Muslim enough.
 
Skunkworks said:
Muslims dislike Nawaz because they see in him the future of Islam in the west, and it’s not miserable Muslim enough.
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that is the problem, Muslim communities in the UK will make statements distancing themselves from attacks or ISIS (when some member of a mosque turns up in Syria) - but they don't really seem to take serious steps towards reform

Islamist student groups still seem to invite hate preachers, still cause huge issues/disruption for anyone who dares be critical of aspects of Islam. Islamic communities are still very insular in some areas, pretty homophobic, there are still women walking around dressed like ninjas, polygamy is on the increase in the UK, there have been issues with schools in places like Birmingham where elements of the community have tried to subvert the local authorities and take control.

They really don't seem to want to acknowledge various issues and actually undertake reform because when it boils down to it Islam is still dominated by religious conservatives compared to other religions. It is like if Christianity was run everywhere by hardcore Catholics who were anti gay, anti abortion etc..
 
I like what the French have done. They have made a pile of rubbish where the killer was shot and walk past spitting on it.

Good on them, show the horrible scumbag the respect he deserves. None.
 
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