* Battlefield 1 *

V_R · 7 Sep 2016 at 10:41

This is an interesting watch:

~>Dg<~ · 7 Sep 2016 at 11:09

nice video. some good points.some so so.not very often i actually watch peoples videos.but well worth a watch.

snips86x · 7 Sep 2016 at 11:10

HazardO said:
Yeah, Sidewinder myself and Kiwi were on last night. I'll send you another link this evening if you need one.

I've been thinking about the specialist classes and wondered if it was possible to exploit the tanker class to get an invincible tank...

-Squad mate spawns on tank with multiple seats (gets assigned as tanker class), and then switches to a different seat.
-Another squad mate spawns on the tank, Do they get the driver's seat? Does this make the a tanker too?

If it was possible you could get a heavy tank with all five members of a squad in it each of whom have a repair hammer. Try stopping that tank..

haha, that sounds ace!! We all know how it goes down in BF4 eh...with a lot of shells

V_R · 7 Sep 2016 at 11:21

Apparently there was an update today...

https://twitter.com/Battlefield/status/773426842682462208

"We'll be deploying a BF1 update on PC starting on Sept 7 at 1A PT/8A UTC/10A CEST with up to 10 minutes expected downtime."

Its ~135MB

Edit: apparently all weapons are unlocked for the last day of the beta.

xb8browney · 7 Sep 2016 at 11:29

Yeah I've just updated and now I have all weapons.

Rroff · 7 Sep 2016 at 11:38

V_R said:
This is an interesting watch:

Semantics - doesn't matter if the problem is random or probability - if there is a problem there picking apart the terms used to describe it is about as helpful as getting worked up by people using the term "netcode".

"Casual" (or any other design intention) gun mechanics can cross the line where they take a lot of skill out of the equation if there isn't a certain amount of low level dependableness - if there is too much non-intuitive, random or predictable deviation in the basic mechanics it can feel very unsatisfying to play for anyone that isn't super casual regardless of the design intention.

(He can talk about bursting v mag dumping all he likes but with the inconsistent and meh "netcode" in BF games I consistently get better results mag dumping at most ranges and infact burst and reset will just see me dead despite what the on paper numbers might say).

rogueblade · 7 Sep 2016 at 11:56

After about 6+ hours I'm really enjoying BF1 much more.
Objective Charlie in conquest after 15 minutes into the game is such a fun point to battle around. After the surround buildings and landscape have been pounded to bits by aircraft bombs, tank shells, and grenades, the area truly feels like a warzone!

There are craters to hide in everywhere and the dynamic weather, environment and gas grenades make it feel really gritty. I just love the way the environment changes around you over time, molding the battlefield to pulp

I wish I had ShadowPlay running because I had one the best kodak moments last night in which a fighter was swooping in to shoot me and fellow ground troops but clipped the top of a building by objective B and took out a top portion of it's wall sending all the bricks flying onto us as he swooped just over our heads

HazardO · 7 Sep 2016 at 12:38

V_R said:
This is an interesting watch:

Wow he lays into Xfactor.

I don't see a great problem with the weapons at the moment bar the recon class getting 100 points of damage to the body.

Tombstone · 7 Sep 2016 at 12:48

rogueblade said:
There are craters to hide in everywhere and the dynamic weather, environment and gas grenades make it feel really gritty. I just love the way the environment changes around you over time, molding the battlefield to pulp

Thats actually one of my favourite things in the game, I thought it was so cool the first time I fired and made a crater and then one of my teammates leapt into it to use it as cover.

Rroff · 7 Sep 2016 at 12:53

HazardO said:
Wow he lays into Xfactor.

I thought it amusing he cut to a segment to prove a point about aim where they were using AEK and Magnum which are some of the easiest weapons to get kills with (albeit the trigger delay on the Magnum can take a bit of adjusting for) - I was regularly managing 400-600m kills with the Magnum when playing with it due to it generally landing around on target if you were half ok aiming with it.

Efour · 7 Sep 2016 at 13:08

Played some rush again and was a sniper fest bet that's fun to me so was happy enough.
Getting a 1080 or 70 so.on so ll need a game to run it ragged. I'll look for a deal on bf1. Is anything bundling it for Xmas?

What's the price of bf1 at its lowest digital floss?...... download, nice suggested word silly phone.

snips86x · 7 Sep 2016 at 13:12

^^

Digital floss haaaa!!!!!

Good work lol

nIckEl101 · 7 Sep 2016 at 13:19

i've been really enjoying the BF1, last one i played was BF3, it brough back what was fun about playing these games.

I much prefer the older style weapons, ie Rifles

I may buy it later, but i will not be pre-ordering

Jonny L · 7 Sep 2016 at 13:22

Having put a fair bit of time into the beta, I will definitely be getting this game - just the base version, however. No matter how much I like a game I refuse to pay the extortionate rates they are charging for premium etc.

FirebarUK · 7 Sep 2016 at 13:24

HazardO said:
Wow he lays into Xfactor.

I don't see a great problem with the weapons at the moment bar the recon class getting 100 points of damage to the body.

Lost me at "a perfectly accurate gun, like a bolt action" .... :/

bazzatron · 7 Sep 2016 at 13:32

HazardO said:
Wow he lays into Xfactor.

I don't see a great problem with the weapons at the moment bar the recon class getting 100 points of damage to the body.

I am sure I've watched videos of this guy ripping into other well known you tubers in the past, to be honest he comes across as someone who is a little salty of others success and is probably trying to gain more viewers by being controversial. That being said he may have a couple of valid points, however there is no doubt in my mind that the SMG's and LMG's need to be improved in some way to match the other classes.

FirebarUK · 7 Sep 2016 at 13:35

Rossi~ said:
Indeed, he was just playing the racial stereotype card.

It's a bit like period dramas on telly, gotta tick the boxes. Still, the numbers in WW1 were still very low in the scheme of things.

HazardO · 7 Sep 2016 at 13:37

FirebarUK said:
Lost me at "a perfectly accurate gun, like a bolt action" .... :/

I think he means that in the game, the bolt action rifles do not have a first shot spread multiplier. This means, apart from the bullet drop, the bullet actually goes where you fire it. Guns which suffer a first shot spread penalty will fire a bullet somewhere within a cone (which expands over distance), with none, the cone is a straight tube..

bazzatron said:
I am sure I've watched videos of this guy ripping into other well known you tubers in the past, to be honest he comes across as someone who is a little salty of others success and is probably trying to gain more viewers by being controversial. That being said he may have a couple of valid points, however there is no doubt in my mind that the SMG's and LMG's need to be improved in some way to match the other classes.

He certainly has a way with his words. I don't think he's trying to be liked, he's trying to lay down the facts as he and the symthic community see them. They tend to use actual game data and calculations rather than battlefeels to come to their conclusions..

Take for instance their analysis of the BF1 guns from the source code..
http://symthic.com/games/bf1/beta-weapon-charts.php

In BF4, battlelog completely lied about the differences between each weapon, and gave you no information whatsoever on the key mechanic in BF which is spread. If you chose your weapon based on whether battlelog said it was a better weapon you were in for a surprise.
They went further to produce data like the TTK of weapons at each range (and at different server tick rates), although a lot of people miss used that data as the theory of which weapon has the lowest TTK assumes you land every shot, so the weapons with the best TTK were always the ones which you could land the shots with or just fired so quickly you were bound to get enough hits.

Rroff · 7 Sep 2016 at 13:39

bazzatron said:
I am sure I've watched videos of this guy ripping into other well known you tubers in the past, to be honest he comes across as someone who is a little salty of others success and is probably trying to gain more viewers by being controversial. That being said he may have a couple of valid points, however there is no doubt in my mind that the SMG's and LMG's need to be improved in some way to match the other classes.

Despite what he says there is a design doc somewhere that I keep meaning to dig out again by a very well regarded game developer that breaks down how gun mechanics should be implemented to maintain the maximum room for skill, not inaccessible for new/casual players and rewarding to play with when you get it right which make a lot of sense and way too often ignored by game developers (including Dice) - also goes into ways to balance weapons without resorting to nasty random/probability based "solutions".

raven-uk-1 · 7 Sep 2016 at 14:33

Efour said:
Played some rush again and was a sniper fest bet that's fun to me so was happy enough.
Getting a 1080 or 70 so.on so ll need a game to run it ragged. I'll look for a deal on bf1. Is anything bundling it for Xmas?

What's the price of bf1 at its lowest digital floss?...... download, nice suggested word silly phone.

floss haha. I think one reason why there are so many snipers at the moment is because a fair amount of people do not like playing with iron sights. I think when the other weapons get sights it will reduce the volume of snipers

Just hope dedicated servers that are rented by clans get procon support. Dice has been trying to kill that off since bf3 and bf4

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