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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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Don't know where you heard that but a gtx 1080 at 2025mhz running same map, same res and same settings is faster than the shown VEGA.

Obviously when VEGA is released with better drivers, overclocked etc. I expect it to be faster than the 1080 personally. Although depends entirely on its DX11 performance too and we haven't seen much of that yet.

From Doom112 himself. I linked that same chap and he clearly states his GTX 1080 is running at 2.25Ghz, along with the 5960X at 4.5Ghz

 
Don't know where you heard that but a gtx 1080 at 2025mhz running same map, same res and same settings is faster than the shown VEGA.

Settings etc around 4:20
Obviously when VEGA is released with better drivers, overclocked etc. I expect it to be faster than the 1080 personally. Although depends entirely on its DX11 performance too and we haven't seen much of that yet.

I don't get these people, why do they all run comparisons with overclocks only and then call it a comparison? they are all the same, every single one of these is running thier 1080 at 2.1Ghz+. It clearly isn't a comparison in the same way if i add nitro to my car it does not compare to another car like it,

Take 25% off their results and then compare, or just don't overclock.

He looked to be getting pretty much the same frame rates as the Vega bench, with his 25% overclock, maybe thats why they are all overclocked.
 
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I don't get these people, why do they all run comparisons with overclocks only and then call it a comparison? they are all the same, every single one of these is running thier 1080 at 2.1Ghz+. It clearly isn't a comparison in the same way if i add nitro to my car it does not compare to another car like it,

Take 25% off their results and then compare, or just don't overclock.

Wut?! :eek: You're telling me I cannot buy a GTX 1080 running at 2250Mhz base clock right now?! :confused:

:D
 
From Doom112 himself. I linked that same chap and he clearly states his GTX 1080 is running at 2.25Ghz, along with the 5960X at 4.5Ghz


In the newer video (one I posted) he does re-iterate that it's at 2.025ghz. Can't see any FE maintaining 2250 unless he's got his card hooked up outside.

As per humbugs comment many 1080's boost to over 2ghz with boost 3.0 anyway so it's easily comparable. It wouldn't be anywhere near an increase of 25% from stock either.
 
I just don't like the current gen price hike is all. And before people mention politics, the 1000 series launched before the vote and people still complained about the price at launch. Thus we were hoping Vega would calm things down a bit. But thinking about it logically (considering the costs to make the card AMD claim they are), that's unlikely to happen. I bet AMD will just slot right in around Nvidia, just as they did with the FuryX (though that was beat by a quick 980ti release) and 300 series.

Also, who expected a release earlier than May and also who on earth said Vega will release in May? A month after seems more likely to me, considering that's been AMD's release window the past couple of years and AMD sponsoring PC Gaming at E3. There's a reason why they said H1, because Q1 wasn't possible and Q2 is too precise/makes it look late.

This is the same madness that was on the Polaris thread and the Fiji thread... we just speculate and jump on the hype/doom train just cos there's naught else to do lol.
 
In the newer video (one I posted) he does re-iterate that it's at 2.025ghz. Can't see any FE maintaining 2250 unless he's got his card hooked up outside.

As per humbugs comment many 1080's boost to over 2ghz with boost 3.0 anyway so it's easily comparable. It wouldn't be anywhere near an increase of 25% from stock either.

If they all boost to over 2Ghz anyway why do they all manually overclock them to over 2Ghz?
 
Depends on the card in question. Many AIB cards boost to over 2ghz. FE often needs a push.
Then why is every reviewer on all cards adding at least 200Mhz when running "overclocked results", are you telling me most AIB cards actually run at about <2.4Ghz?

Why do none of the people i know have 1080's boosting to over 2Ghz out of the box?

You're exaggerating, if most boosted to over 2Ghz no of them would need overclocking, they are not capable of running at much more than 2.1Ghz 24/7 if at all, they wouldn't have any overclocking headroom.

According to reviews and users most of them boost to about 1850Mhz, much more than that overclocking long term depends on temperatures, most do 2.1Ghz overclocked short term, IE for benching
 
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I am not getting drawn into the 1080 V Vega, purely because We actually have no idea what is what with Vega, other than a couple of early vids that are on (assumed) unoptimised drivers and no real cooling solution. Vega could be much faster in consumer released cards.

What I would say though is, I would like to see Vega stomp all over the 1080 and hope it does. The time AMD have had with 14nm, it should do.
 
I am not getting drawn into the 1080 V Vega, purely because We actually have no idea what is what with Vega, other than a couple of early vids that are on (assumed) unoptimised drivers and no real cooling solution. Vega could be much faster in consumer released cards.

What I would say though is, I would like to see Vega stomp all over the 1080 and hope it does. The time AMD have had with 14nm, it should do.

You're expecting too many miracles from AMD.

It's not gon'a happen for the same reason nVidia can't just conjure up a Pascal Titan-X beater in the next few weeks on what they have to work with.

Don't expect AMD to work more miracle than nVidia, there is no reason why AMD should.

Once you accept that reality will meet your expectations.
 
Then why is every reviewer on all cards adding at least 200Mhz when running "overclocked results", are you telling me most AIB cards actually run at about <2.4Ghz?

Why do none of the people i know have 1080's boosting to over 2Ghz out of the box?

You're exaggerating, if most boosted to over 2Ghz no of them would need overclocking, they are not capable of running at much more than 2.1Ghz 24/7 if at all, they wouldn't have any overclocking headroom.

According to reviews and users most of them boost to about 1850Mhz, much more than that overclocking long term depends on temperatures, most do 2.1Ghz overclocked short term, IE for benching

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You're expecting too many miracles from AMD.

It's not gon'a happen for the same reason nVidia can't just conjure up a Pascal Titan-X beater in the next few weeks on what they have to work with.

Don't expect AMD to work more miracle than nVidia, there is no reason why AMD should.

Once you accept that reality will meet your expectations.

He's only hyping it up to lay into it when it fails to meet those standards.
 
So is Gregster ^^^



Its not difficult is it?

AMD are working in the same age with the same tools as nVidia, No reason to think they can do better.

There is as Nvidia pretty much came in with years old architecture and AMD are bringing in a brand new architecture around a year later. I think Vega will be faster than Pascal or at least i think it should be. A Fury X clocked at around 1500mhz would be a match for the gtx1080 so surely a Vega chip should do better.
 
I think my expectations are pretty much the same as humbugs, decent performance for a decent price and not getting carried away wanting titan x performance for £200
 
Then why is every reviewer on all cards adding at least 200Mhz when running "overclocked results", are you telling me most AIB cards actually run at about <2.4Ghz?

Why do none of the people i know have 1080's boosting to over 2Ghz out of the box?

You're exaggerating, if most boosted to over 2Ghz no of them would need overclocking, they are not capable of running at much more than 2.1Ghz 24/7 if at all, they wouldn't have any overclocking headroom.

According to reviews and users most of them boost to about 1850Mhz, much more than that overclocking long term depends on temperatures, most do 2.1Ghz overclocked short term, IE for benching

He's not exaggerating at all. You can look at the specs of each, they will all say they boost to 1.9 something, run them yourself and they boost to over 2k without any kind of OC. Mine does 2075 without any OC attempt. You can still find the thread from the day I bought it, all the numbers are there.

You can still OC them a bit further, can't remember what mine went up to, but you can find that as well. There are thread created every time someone buys such a card, I don't remember anyone with a 1080 not boost to over 2k.
 
I think my expectations are pretty much the same as humbugs, decent performance for a decent price and not getting carried away wanting titan x performance for £200

Considering nvidia have pushed the TXP up to £1179. Certainly needs something to bring it down.

Not trying to defend nvidia in any of my posts, but I do stick to facts. Wanting VEGA to bring TXP perf for £600 just like everyone else :D.
 
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