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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

Wow, I'm surprised to see it get spanked so much in gaming. Looks like a great productivity cpu though. From what I gather some reckon latency issues are killing its gaming efficiency. Who knows.
 
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SMT definitely causing AMD to lose FPS in games. Lower latency RAM also seems to help a lot.
 
Well, very interesting. The SMT problem is a bit of a curveball, though it's their first attempt at this stuff, hopefully they can fix this over the next few months and actually have it boost performance.
It will be interesting to see how the scene changes over time and if it can be ironed out. I feel like it will take at least another fortnight before we get the whole picture.
 
Excellent results so far, looks like I will be getting a great productivity boost (as well as features/etc) plus gaming improvements to boot (wasn't expecting that in lightly threaded games).
 
Locky said:
Whats SMT?
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AMDs version of hyperthreading.

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
But its my point - this is the R9 290X again.

A potentially great product that AMD hindered by ****** the launch up missing on details.
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Sure but it's still getting great reviews even with self inflicted below par gaming performance. First thing I will be doing is disabling SMT on the 1600 if it's not fixed by then.
 
Sod it, 1700, disable SMT and suddenly you having a competing gaming CPU.

Don't forget this is AMD's first attempt at SMT/HT, took Intel many years to get it to where it is.
 
It really isn't a gaming cpu. It's a direct competitor for x99.

If you need the extra cores it is absolutely incredible value for money over intels 8 cores.

But for gaming, a higher clocked 6700k / 7700k is the better bet for the time being.
 
Yutang13 said:
Well, very interesting. The SMT problem is a bit of a curveball, though it's their first attempt at this stuff, hopefully they can fix this over the next few months and actually have it boost performance.
It will be interesting to see how the scene changes over time and if it can be ironed out. I feel like it will take at least another fortnight before we get the whole picture.
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IIRC Nehalem's SMT had scenarios where performance was impacted. Intel have had 8 years to iron out to their current implementation. As per that graph just earlier, even they run into minor SMT perf drops.
 
Don't know if was possible of course, but it might have been a good idea to launch the 1600X at the same time instead of say the 1700X to give a wider view of performance.
 
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