Shots fired outside parliament - Please refrain from speculative and antagonistic posts

Avenged7Fold said:
There should be more restrictions or stricter consequences for the religious nut jobs.
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Better.


Cosimo said:
No it isn't. Maybe the truth about Google should be made known to an even wider audience.

Can't blame them as it now appears that Google are only interested in taking money for advertising and don't give a hoot about whether it pays for terrorism , racism and anything else obnoxious. I hope they lose hundreds of millions for allowing this to happen.

Looking forward to wise words from Google lovers on how wonderful they are..... not...
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Katie Hopkins is fuelled by the extreme reactions she can trigger. She is the very definition of a troll.

Its a shame because if you cut through her emotive language and the collateral damage that ensues, she sometimes has a point.
 
C.R.A.Z.Y said:
Just confirmed, the daily mail front page today is 100% genuine and NOT satire !!!

Source = http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-39375921
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Presumably the "terrorist manual" isn't actually "on Google" but rather indexed in Google's search engine...

So the DM is castigating them for allowing people to find this material, by writing a front page article telling people how to find this material.

Hate-blinded fallacious logic is fallacious.
 
Religious nut jobs should have the same punishments and restrictions as non religious nut jobs.

Why would you make their punishments stricter than the other?

Surely we are subject to the same laws. A religious person does not break a different law to a non religious one when they commit murder...
 
Avenged7Fold said:
Our media is more dangerous than any single terrorist.

Such poor taste and disgusting exploitation of a recent horror for the sake of a fear mongering and shocking article. Our media runs wild with bias, fake stories, hate mongering, fear mongering and defaming. If they go too far, a tiny back page apology is all they do to make things right.

There should be more restrictions or stricter consequences for the media.
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Agreed completely. But I do put the blame squarely on the shoulders of the buyers and those that link to the stories.
 
Avenged7Fold said:
There should be more restrictions or stricter consequences for the media.
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Problem is something like that would inevitably be disastrous for any media outlet that runs unfavourable articles. Government could veto any leaks/scandles it wanted.

Anyone with half a brain knows the dailymail is 99% full of ****. If they were regulated the half brainers would only move to other sites that didn't fall under the regulation.
 
Mynight said:
If they were regulated the half brainers would only move to other sites that didn't fall under the regulation.
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Yeah but at least those outlets dont have the processional platform to shift as much.

I certainly think forcing an outlet to apologise on the same scale as their defamation of someone is fair. How many peoples personal lives get ruined due to false articles and speculation and all they end up with is a tiny payout and a small apology in the corner of one of the least read pages.
 
Mynight said:
Problem is something like that would inevitably be disastrous for any media outlet that runs unfavourable articles. Government could veto any leaks/scandles it wanted.

Anyone with half a brain knows the dailymail is 99% full of ****. If they were regulated the half brainers would only move to other sites that didn't fall under the regulation.
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True. That's the issue when you try and control the media or have no control at all. Very much a catch 22 situation.
 
Avenged7Fold said:
Yeah but at least those outlets dont have the processional platform to shift as much.

I certainly think forcing an outlet to apologise on the same scale as their defamation of someone is fair. How many peoples personal lives get ruined due to false articles and speculation and all they end up with is a tiny payout and a small apology in the corner of one of the least read pages.
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That I can definitely agree with. I do somewhat envy the US huge payouts in these sort of matters. The UK ones aren't even a slap on the wrist.

Only if it was proven false/malicious that is.
 
Rifte said:
Katie Hopkins is fuelled by the extreme reactions she can trigger. She is the very definition of a troll.

Its a shame because if you cut through her emotive language and the collateral damage that ensues, she sometimes has a point.
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She has a good point more often than a mere "sometimes". The points she makes and her forthright manner are an irritant to the thin skins
and sensibilities of many modern liberally minded youngsters though. If a Daily Mail headline can get people here so apparently intoxicated
with bile and excitement it's probably best they steer clear of the somewhat right of centre opinionated Mrs. Hopkins. They are too easy for
her to get a rise from ;) Where is she writing these days?
 
Chris Wilson said:
She has a good point more often than a mere "sometimes". The points she makes and her forthright manner are an irritant to the thin skins
and sensibilities of many modern liberally minded youngsters though. If a Daily Mail headline can get people here so apparently intoxicated
with bile and excitement it's probably best they steer clear of the somewhat right of centre opinionated Mrs. Hopkins. They are too easy for
her to get a rise from ;) Where is she writing these days?
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From a cave somewhere, a place she has in common with many of her readers and supporters.
I don't really care for her comments, if anything I find them hilarious at best but also a sad indictment on her as well.
I still take great joy that she lost her case for libel/defamation a few mths back. Not that it would stop her from spewing her bile and excrement.
 
Mynight said:
That I can definitely agree with. I do somewhat envy the US huge payouts in these sort of matters. The UK ones aren't even a slap on the wrist.

Only if it was proven false/malicious that is.
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Even when the person gets a payout here, it is little consolation after it has chased you out of your neighbourhood and followed you from whatever desperate employer is willing to touch you.
 
Turns out that you can also find hate-filled bile designed to cause division based on race and religion, stuff that'd get you on certain lists (e.g. photos of teenage girls alongside captions like "my, how she's grown"), stalking of public figures including photographing them and their families from a distance, etc. on Google. You just have to search for "Daily Mail" to find it.
 
Avenged7Fold said:
Even when the person gets a payout here, it is little consolation after it has chased you out of your neighbourhood and followed you from whatever desperate employer is willing to touch you.
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True but if the payouts were uncapped then I doubt any news outlet would risk running speculative stories. Hopefully no more ruining lives.

A retraction would be nice as well but would be nicer if it wasn't to happen in the first place and sadly the only way to do that without restricting the press is large monetary penalties.
 
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