Shots fired outside parliament - Please refrain from speculative and antagonistic posts

Yeah he said he only used 6 of the main names but could recite them all off one by one., We used to wind up the teachers by demanding they read out his name in full at roll call. :)
 
Just watching the video of the prime minister being evacuated - I'm no professional and the video is a bit in tight so can't see any outer perimeter guards if it existed but didn't seem very effective to me - little use of angles/cover incase someone was making use of the attack to flush her out, etc. didn't seem to be very well drilled at all.
 
Rifte said:
I do not profess to know much at all about the Islamic faith, I couldn't tell you if it preaches peace or hatred, depending on who you listen to the Quran teaches both.

What I do know from personal experience is that at its core it doesn't encourage integration or tolerance. What has just happened will only cement with the backlash.

I get tired of seeing these 'London stick together!' or 'Paris we are praying for you ' or any other western city which had suffered an attack recently. How long will it be before the left acknowledge that there is a problem and however many candles you light or Facebook profile pictures you change it won't stop Islamic extremism blowing up and killing our people.

ISIS must be laughing their ***** off when they see the response.

'We are not afraid!'

Well you should be because your liberalism isn't going to stop this, and this will happen again.

Am I advocating a retribution based attack? Absolutely no because that will only escalate what is currently happening. I am just sick of being told that it's seemingly 'ok' that our people get blown up, stabbed or shot or whatever the hell next.

'Business as usual in London '. Give me a break.

I am sure ISIS are really thinking

'yeah, let's not attack London again because they don't care'

I don't know what the solution is, I don't have the experience, diplomacy or political know how to even start with it.

There is a problem though, and it needs to be OK to acknowledge that there is. When it smells like it, looks like it, sounds like it,tastes like it and feels like it....call it what it is.
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Great post, well said.
 
nick.lidgett said:
My wife is a prison officer at a male cat c prison, inside the prison the people that follow Islam stick to themselves the same way other racial and religious groups tend to do, prison is responsible for a lot of extremist behavior but not in just one particular group of offenders.

Just to clarify, she comes home with all sorts of horrific stories, so if youve ever read prison is all playstations and pool tables thats a lie.
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Dirty protests must be fun
 
danielanthony said:
Philip Scofield walked over Westminster Bridge in 'defiance' is mocked http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...in-defiance-after-terror-attack-a3498361.html

If only he had contributed a tea light and given a speech about 'solidarity' and 'blitz spirit' he would have been much more credible.
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To be fair, the tweet they quote is a perfect parody of Trump supporter rationale:-

@Mnrrnt tweeted: "Donald Trump promised and failed to defeat ISIS in 30 days. Philip Schofield just did it in 10 minutes."
 
Rroff said:
Just watching the video of the prime minister being evacuated - I'm no professional and the video is a bit in tight so can't see any outer perimeter guards if it existed but didn't seem very effective to me - little use of angles/cover incase someone was making use of the attack to flush her out, etc. didn't seem to be very well drilled at all.
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It wasn't long ago Cameron was viciously fallen into by a random jogger so they don't seem overly on the ball :D.
 
adolf hamster said:
so what are you proposing as a solution then? if liberalism and it's mantra of solidarity and refusing to be terrorised by these terror attacks isn't the answer then what is?

you say you dont advocate retribution, so what should we do instead?
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I said it pages back, drastic measures, deport anyone on an Islamic Terrorism watch list, simple, if you are on it for any reason, off you ****** go!

Unless we all want more of the following, notice the trend?

Screeeech said:
And exactly how are we going to benefit from the "extra security" provided by snoopers charter when;

7/7 bombers - known to MI5 and the police, had previously been investigated, didn't do any good.
Bataclan ringleader and accomplices - already known to the police, didn't do any good
Charlie Hebdo attacks - all attackers known to the police and intelligence services - didn't do any good.
Brussels suicide bombings (airport and underground) - nearly all attackers known to police and intelligence services - didn't do any good
Nice truck attack - main suspect known to the police - didn't do any good
Berlin Christmas market attack - main suspect known to police, and intelligence services - and in the process of being deported, didn't do any good
Westminster attack, - attacker known to the police and MI5 - didn't do any good,
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That list posted by screech says it all for me, what an unbelievable statistic.
 
Arazi said:
I said it pages back, deport anyone on an Islamic Terrorism watch list, simple, if you are on it for any reason, off you ****** go!
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And if the person on the watch list is born in the UK where would you suggest we deport them to?


EDIT: Also being on a watch list doesnt make you guilty of anything, the Americans tried this already with Guantanamo Bay and it didnt work
 
Oh well, it's potentially looking like any applications that encrypt messages might be the next target - it's looking like the attacker was posting messages on WhatsApp right before the attack, so no doubt this will be used to force all messaging companies to allow unencrypted backdoors, or remove encryption altogether - because of course this will make everyone safer........................

 
Yas786 said:
From a cave somewhere, a place she has in common with many of her readers and supporters.
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You really do think you are more important or a better person than her readers and supporters don't you? You are the same towards Trump supporters to.

There is a trend on here with you and quite a few others, get your nose out the air.
 
Screeeech said:
Oh well, it's potentially looking like any applications that encrypt messages might be the next target - it's looking like the attacker was posting messages on WhatsApp right before the attack, so no doubt this will be used to force all messaging companies to allow unencrypted backdoors, or remove encryption altogether - because of course this will make everyone safer........................
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I was thinking this today. It is an awful and horrid thing to happen but in the grand scheme of the things - heck even compared to 7/7 bombing - this was poorly organised by seemingly only one person, with 'only' four victims killed. I really don't see the hype with it? Currently abroad and people are like 'omg London are your family ok' - errr yes, thank you very much for your good willed concern though.

The last thing I want is the thing you describe.
 
Arazi said:
There is a trend on here with you and quite a few others, get your nose out the air.
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It would be nice if that happened. Would also be nice if some other posters removed theirs from their arse but we can only live in hope :D.
Screeeech said:
Oh well, it's potentially looking like any applications that encrypt messages might be the next target - it's looking like the attacker was posting messages on WhatsApp right before the attack, so no doubt this will be used to force all messaging companies to allow unencrypted backdoors, or remove encryption altogether - because of course this will make everyone safer........................
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Sadly I wouldn't be overly surprised if this was mentioned fairly shortly as the next great thing to protect us all whilst increasing our privacy.
 
Arazi said:
You really do think you are more important or a better person than her readers and supporters don't you? You are the same towards Trump supporters to.

There is a trend on here with you and quite a few others, get your nose out the air.
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Hear Hear.
 
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