Poll: Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July

Exit poll: Who did you vote for?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 302 27.5%

  • Labour

    Votes: 577 52.6%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 104 9.5%

  • Green

    Votes: 13 1.2%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 19 1.7%

  • Scottish National Party

    Votes: 30 2.7%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 6 0.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 46 4.2%
  • Total voters
    1,097
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Gimpymoo said:
While watching the live coverage, as results were being declared at the counts, the BBC were sometimes showing the graphic with the vote totals before they had been read out.

Were these sometimes on a delay or are the news outlets briefed of the totals before they are "declared"?
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It's a fix, obviously.
 
thenewoc said:
Oh dear what have you Labour lot done now, worst possible outcome. Indecision or alike due to pro Europe MP's hampering a good deal is really going to hurt this country.
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Can't get a GP appointment for 4 weeks
Not enough police on the streets to maintain law and order
Terrorists on channel 4 documentaries, in this country who go on to kill people, under May's watch
Snoopers charter
Students incurring enormous debts, just to get educated
Risk of Fox Hunting becoming legal

Brexit is at the back of my mind right now, it's the basic stuff going on here at home that needs sorting out and it needs sorting out now,
 
I was trying to be objective about what has happened in this election compared to the last 9 elections. The Conservatives have got approx. 13.6 million votes which hasn't been exceeded since 1992. They got 42.4% of the vote which is the highest by some way since 2001. In any other election since 1979 the Conservatives performance would have been a resounding victory with a thumping majority. The big change this election is that the second place party has closed the gap on the first place party by around 8-10% on recent historical norms largely at the expense of the "lesser" parties. Corbyn's victory is to rally more of the non-Conservative voters behind him more than any other party since 1979.

Plainly this is terrible and humiliating loss for Theresa May but not because the voters swung against her but because they so emphatically swung toward Corbyn. He plainly appeals to a very sizeable constituency. I don't get it but I don't deny it.

Some stats to illustrate my point
First <> Second
2017 42.4% <> 40.1%
2015 36.9% <>30.4%
2010 36.1% <>29.0%
2005 35.2% <>32.4%
2001 43.2% <>31.7%
1997 43.2% <>30.7%
1992 41.9% <>34.4%
1987 42.2% <>30.8%
1983 42.4% <>27.6%
1979 43.9% <>36.9%

first <> second
2017 13.6 <> 12.8
2015 11.3<> 9.3
2010 10.7<> 8.6
2005 9.5 <>8.7
2001 10.7 <>8.3
1997 13.5<> 9.6
1992 14.1 <>11.6
1987 13.7 <>10
1983 13.0<> 8.4
1979 13.7 <>11.5 million votes

Sorry the tables aren't sexier I don't know how to make a table.
 
Not an entirely bad result on balance although I would have preferred a small Tory majority. It was an appalling campaign and highlighted just how unhappy some naturally Conservative supporters are with the state of things at the moment. On reflection I actually think it may not be a bad thing to have the government (assuming the Tories and DUP make a deal) have to listen to Parliament a little more and be ab it more consensual in the approach to brexit.

The Jeremy Corbyn/Diane Abbot thing for Labour is quite interesting. Whilst JC garnered unexpected support he also put a lot of people off. JC meant for me I just could not vote labour leaving only conservative. As untrendy as it is these days to say so if the alternative had been a "New Labour" option they'd have gotten my vote in a heart beat.

Personally I'd love to see a more sensible central party option able to chart the concerns that drove Brexit without the extreme Xenophobia, look after the members of our society who need help without the full on hatred for anyone who is lucky enough to have done well in life. There has to be a reasonable middle ground for a party to take the best ideas from the left and right and combine it into something which is actually good for the british people (shocking idea I know - MPs really need to understand we ask them to represent us, not rule us).

Still, on the bright side and thinking of odious politicians I haven't yet stopped giggling at Alex Salmond losing his seat and Nicola Sturgeon trying to claim a victory - let's at leas hope we've put the prospect for IndyRef2 to bed for a decade or so and the Scottish government can plan strategically now to do the best for Scotland as part of the Uk rather than all the focus on trying to build an environment to generate a favourable second referendum.

Congratulations to Labour on a well run campaign, Conservatives - you've been given your last warning to shape up or you'll be out next time, LibDems i feel sorry for as they got hit by tactical voting, Greens- still mad as a box of frogs. :)
 
My constituency re-elected the Labour MP that the Tories ousted in 2015
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last time he lost by ~250 votes, this time he won by ~2500, nice. I guess the Tory candidate had already got his max boost from the "anyone but Miliband" crowd so the same people voting "anyone but Corbyn" didn't help him much, whereas our Labour MP benefitted from people who didn't bother voting last time turning out.
 
It's the Tory Brexiteers who have got thier worst result, not everyone else. If you can't take a step back from your views to understand that you'll never understand politics or economics.
 
Hopefully, to quote Frankie Boyle, Paul Nuttall will shortly be "Driving a coach and breeding Staffies" or "Working as a model. Fronting a campaign urging women not to leave their drinks unattended." :D
 
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