Poll: Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July

[sanaxe1]

By returning a minority government, we have shown our soft under-belly to the EU, this is bad news for us.

It was like that from the beginning, we never had a leg to stand on with the EU.

 

[scorza]

The DUP had terrorist group support. If the Conservatives get in bed with them, how is it going to look after all their ramblings about Corbyn's IRA connection?

That's just not true I'm afraid - alternative fact.

 

[CapitalOne]

Yes to gain a stronger mandate to negotiate with the EU. May damaged things by being too sure of gaining seats and using the opportunity to add a bunch of unpalatable stuff to their manifesto or her party did. So I accept May should have kept this more about Brexit but I stand by having a hung parliament is a bad choice for the electorate to have made, unless you were wanting to run the country into the ground of course.

Some others might consider a strong Tory mandate running the country into the ground. Maybe nearly half the population.

 

[mid_gen]

A coalition isn't a good thing - we need a strong govt with credible majority - the only winners today are the EU.

The EU hasn't won anything. They just want to get on with the Brexit process.

The sentiments this morning from over here can be summed up thus :

 

[PlacidCasual]

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/30865188

Further to my earlier post I was talking to friends an we wondered whether the 42.4% presented the high tide mark for the Conservatives as did they really leave any votes behind because of a poor campaign.

 

[bayo000]

More likely forced out by the Boris.

I'd rather have May then Boris. Though they're both bad.

 

[n111ck]

Again, no. The only losers are Tory Brexiteers and the SNP.

The Tories still have a manifesto pledge to leave the single market / customs union - the only difference now is it will probably be harder and cost more and given that a labour brexit would have be astronomical that's still not bad all things considered.

 

[Glaucus]

Yes to gain a stronger mandate to negotiate with the EU. May damaged things by being too sure of gaining seats and using the opportunity to add a bunch of unpalatable stuff to their manifesto or her party did. So I accept May should have kept this more about Brexit but I stand by having a hung parliament is a bad choice for the electorate to have made, unless you were wanting to run the country into the ground of course.

and a lot of us disagree, a majority tory who would remove human and workers rights, want a hard brexit etc and would have ran the country into the ground and anything is better than, a authoritarian state with no rights and far to many spying laws, and a lack of civil rights.

to many seem to think people blindly voted for labour, when imo its very much people voted against a wannabe dictator.

 

[Arthur Hucksake]

That's just not true I'm afraid - alternative fact.

Keep telling yourself that. What an absolute mess this all is.

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/dup-defends-funding-for-ex-paramilitary-groups-1-6647095

A leading DUP figure last night defended a decision to provide a public funding to a string of groups which offer support to former republican and loyalist terrorists.

Read more at: http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/dup-defends-funding-for-ex-paramilitary-groups-1-6647095

 

[Narj]

It means the Tories will end up in a coalition (of chaos ) with a party with a very strong vested interest in a smooth and amicable Brexit process. About as good a result as we could have expected tbh.

And hopefully won't get any of the nasty stuff through that they tried to hide behind the Brexit headlines, either. Glad people saw through the, "this election is all about Brexit" rubbish.

 

[Azza]

That's just not true I'm afraid - alternative fact.

 

[CapitalOne]

The Tories still have a current manifesto pledge to leave the single market / customs union - the only difference now is it will probably be harder and cost more and given that a labour brexit would have be astronomical that's still not bad all things considered.

Do you think the negotiations wil start on the original date? Do you think there will not be a change in Tory leadership and another election?

eta, bolding my addition to your post sorry

 

[scorza]

It was like that from the beginning, we never had a leg to stand on with the EU.

We had 11 billion legs. This election is typical post-war Britain - snatch defeat from the jaws of victory time and time again

 

[Greebo]

Ah right, well it was $2.09 is 2007

If you are trying to somehow prove the pound has risen vs what could have been then you are wrong.

No, somebody said the pound dropped 10% today.

I said it had only dropped 2.7% and is higher than when we filed for Artcile 50

To which somebody said it was $1.30 then to which I showed a link that it was $1.24,

So I am not sure what point you are trying to make about 2007?

 

[Scrutinize]

A DUP coalition will not be acceptable to either the NI parties or UK. They may have 10 seats but with 300k in raw votes, completely unrepresentative of the UK voting populus.

Not to mention their whole history and affiliation with terrorism and NI regimes.

 

[Freakbro]

Yes to gain a stronger mandate to negotiate with the EU. May damaged things by being too sure of gaining seats and using the opportunity to add a bunch of unpalatable stuff to their manifesto or her party did. So I accept May should have kept this more about Brexit but I stand by having a hung parliament is a bad choice for the electorate to have made, unless you were wanting to run the country into the ground of course.

The Brexit referendum has put this country on the path to ruin, it matters little who is steering the ship

 

[Greebo]

EU officials are absolutely laying into May this morning. Rather incredible.

Well even if she had won she had delayed Brexit talks by 4 weeks. Now with this mess that might be even longer.

 

[mrbios]

alternative fact.

The cornerstone of the tories election campaign, seems fitting to be honest.

 

[n111ck]

Do you think the negotiations wil start on the original date? Do you think there will not be a change in Tory leadership and another election?

I suspect negotiations will start with a Tory government - I very much doubt Labour would actually win an election with corbyn in charge.

 

[Greebo]

Just to illustrate how bad the Conservative campaign was, I can't remember them talking about jobs or the economy once. Why am I only seeing this tweet now after the election? It should have been front and centre on every interview Corbyn gave:

Because clearly hours of smearing Corbyn and pages and pages of anti Corbyrn and most interviews by Tory leaders was all anti Labour and anti Corbyn didnt work.

Instead of talking about the good things they have done like unemployment, deficit, GDP etc.