Poll: Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July

[do_ron_ron]

Why does BBC Scotland feel the need to on the one hand tell us that the SNP lost 21 seats in this general election and on the other hand the SNP are the biggest party in Scotland? Where is the relevance, this was a UK general election the size of the SNP in Scotland is immaterial?

Maybe the answer is in your post, BBC Scotland, giving regional views on the general election. After all Ruth Davidson kept banging on about education etc when they are devolved matters and not the preserve of the Westnmi9ster Govt.

 

[wildman]

Her team of advisers should be down the job centre for their performance!

Well her chief manifesto author is already there when he got booted out of ipswich

 

[RDM]

Did you miss the bit where the Conservatives had a fairly strong majority government and voluntarily called an early election?

I'm note entirely sure a 6 seat majority is a strong majority.

She didn't need to call the election, took the chance when opinion polls put her streets ahead and then completely messed it up by running a godawful campaign.

She has months left is my guess.

 

[gettothechopper]

No one to blame other than May

all she had to do was throw us a frickin bone
48% didnt want brexit, a large proportion of those, including myself. accept the result - "ok lets get on with it"
she then panders to the Scorzas to burn all bridges and conduct brexit in the most hostile way possile

maybe just turn it down a bit? maybe appeal to more than just ukippers
offer nothing other than a continually bleak future for young people and then act suprised when they vote against you

im all for a bit of realism in your manafesto but - "when you get old and ill we gon take yo monays after you die" isnt a positive inspiring votewinner

Davy C made them more electable by turning down the mouth foaming, and being a bit more reasonable, even then it was as a coalition or barely a majority

 

[V F]

Her team of advisers should be down the job centre for their performance!

LOL!

 

[dalehitchy1]

Election in a nutshell - The woman who continually accused corbyn of being a terrorist sympathizer has done a deal with terrorist sympathisers to stay in power.....

 

[fez]

Did you miss the bit where the Conservatives had a fairly strong majority government and voluntarily called an early election?

Nope, that was quite obvious however the miscalculation of the conservatives doesn't automatically mean its a big win for labour. They misjudged the fact that up until the election actually was announced, Corbyn was simply a nutter in charge of the main opposition party. That was all labour was to the tories. Once the campaigning started they realised that he was a nutter who was promising ridiculous things but enough people thought those things were possible that they ignore the crazy guy spinning them.

I'm by no means 'young', but I can totally understand why young people these days have had enough of being shafted. Housing, education, healthcare - do you really see these becoming more affordable for your average 21 year-old under May?

No, I see these as inevitable problems that happen in every affluent country where most of the population are out for number one and complete hypocrites. Housing in and around London is an issue but its simply supply and demand. Labour won't stop this. Education is the same as its always been, good where the parents care and bad where they don't. Free university eduction for everyone is a monumentally stupid idea any way you want to paint it. We already have too many people with **** degrees who think their "higher education" entitles them to better jobs. The last thing we need is more of them. The NHS issue is another one where you could throw 50bn extra a year at it and it would still fall apart further down the line. The population is getting older, drugs are expensive and medical care is so good that we can keep all the unhealthy people alive for a really long time at massive expense.

Then throw in the fact that we've just voted to remove a big opportunity of jobs in Europe, etc and you'll start to see why the 'young vote' has gone in the direction of change.

No we haven't, you can still work in other countries quite happily. They won't block you from working in other countries in Europe just because we leave the EU. Plenty of people work in America, Canada, Australia etc without issue. This is a much smaller issue that you are making it out to be.

Trying to pass young voters off as all being influenced by celebs and 'kool' is patronising to a level of stupidity. It's almost as bad as trying to claim that all Labour voters are work-shy benefit claimants.

I didn't claim that all young voters were voting for those reasons but I have seen interviews on the BBC with young people saying why they are voting Labour and plenty of articles about the influences on them. Its not a completely irrelevant issue.

 

[div0]

Corbyn's manifesto was a pipe dream - I doubt he'd actually be able to deliver 5% of it - but at least it offered hope to people that things were going to get better. The Conservative manifesto is probably very sensible from a budgetary point of view, but not very inspiring. Like I said earlier, the British people have decided that they'd prefer politicians who lie to them and tell them everything's going to be OK, over honest ones who tell them of the necessary difficult decisions that must made.

Difficult decisions always need to be made, but looks at the sections of society who have been most affected by recent austerity cuts. Young people these days must look at some of the big decisions being made and just see older people who're out to look after themselves. You think a turkey should vote for Christmas just because the alternative might turn out to be a pipe dream?

I'm by no means a fan of having a country which spends beyond it's means, but that doesn't automatically mean that I'd vote for the 'sensible' option (as you put it), when I completely disagree with the bigger picture for where that would take us as a country.

 

[Cuchulain]

Maybe the streets will be running around with UDA/UXX people for the next 10 years or so, the next batch of gansters/haters. Be the next group in the chain to be socialised. #dumpingground

You should be pleased, they're fanatically British & they don't like them pesky Muslims either. Not that they'd actually want to come to England unless it was absolutely necessary, normally under threat of death during a loyalist feud.

 

[doodah]

Why do the Tories put so much faith in Lynton Crosby?

 

[RavenXXX2]

Lots of crying

Maybot took a hell of a beating and is now backed up by actual terrorists, she has no mandate and getting **** through parliament will be a nightmare. Tories are ******.

 

[Silly Goose On The Loose]

Why wouldn't the young return to the ballot box? They've proven they can boost Labour rather significantly this election. If anything, they're more likely next time.

 

[Caracus2k]

No one to blame other than May

all she had to do was throw us a frickin bone
48% didnt want brexit, a large proportion of those, including myself. accept the result - "ok lets get on with it"
she then panders to the Scorzas to burn all bridges and conduct brexit in the most hostile way possile

maybe just turn it down a bit? maybe appeal to more than just ukippers
offer nothing other than a continually bleak future for young people and then act suprised when they vote against you

im all for a bit of realism in your manafesto but - "when you get old and ill we gon take yo monays after you die" isnt a positive inspiring votewinner

I voted for remain but what people need to realise is there no point going into brexit negotiations in a conciliatory mood. The eu rightly views brexit as an existential threat to the integrity if the whole eu and will seek to 'punish' the UK as a result to dissuade further dissent.

Corbyn, who indicates he was willing to give in to the eu before we even started would have been a terrible choice to lead the country through the process imo

 

[Arazi]

As a minority gov can she now implement what was in the manifesto, at will?

There is going to be a lot of over 50s not to happy about it imo, also the whole manifest was pulled out her arse and uncosted and had multiple u-turns, how can she be allowed to implement it?

 

[Glaucus]

is fez, scorzas second account.

 

[McGray]

THE UK has ordered Theresa May to remain in position for a few weeks so it can relish her humiliation.
The prime minister, whose 2017 election gambit is expected to replace the Titanic as a popular metaphor for hubris, has been told to stick around so we can see the pain in her eyes.
Voter Julian Cook, from Canterbury, said: “She’s not allowed to resign. Not until I’ve drunk my fill.
“She still has to do all her normal jobs but just with that beautifully broken body language. Maybe a tremor in her voice and a bit of a shuffly walk.
“There has to be at least one big address to the nation where she says ‘strong and stable’ and then flinches in self-inflicted pain, all arrogance turned to ashes.”
Jane Thomson, from Stevenage, added: “Just imagine her in those Europe meetings, with the self-loathing smile of a sacked headteacher forced to return to the school as supply the very next term.
“I’m going to love this. She could do the full five years for me.”

 

[bulldog147]

The Great Britain is finished for good under the Conservative Party & DUP Party.

Mrs May should RESIGNED now and call up another General Election!

 

[do_ron_ron]

Her team of advisers should be down the job centre for their performance!

Advisors ...... TM took the decisions. From what I heard this morning on the TV it is Tory Central Office that is spitting blood because they where left out of the decisions. May ran a Presidential election and like the Donald is shown to be not up to the job.

 

[Kanifee]

Yes i agree but the fact that the only real competition is claiming a victory because the other party shot themselves in the foot/head heart whatever way you want to put it rather than because they actually made any ground themselves or furthered their own agendas speaks volumes. We have no choices,no where to turn because all we have as opposition are lies and inept idiots. Up until this year I was a labor voter, but I can't see a situation where corby is the better choice period.

 

[Glaucus]

As a minority gov can she now implement what was in the manifesto, at will?

There is going to be a lot of over 50s not to happy about it imo, also the whole manifest was pulled out her arse and uncosted and had multiple u-turns, how can she be allowed to implement it?

no, she requires a majority to vote her way, which is unlikely to happen ever, plenty on her own side don't like her manifesto its to right to authoritarian. she pandered to much to ukip and to much to the tory hard liners, she ignored everyone else, while on her power grab.