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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

On or off the hype train?

  • (off) Train has derailed

    Votes: 207 39.2%
  • (on) Overcrowding, standing room only

    Votes: 100 18.9%
  • (never ever got on) Chinese escalator

    Votes: 221 41.9%

  • Total voters
    528
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I think we're beyond caring now tbh...


JUST GIVE US THE DAMN CARDS OR THE BUNNY GETS IT!!!!

I think the bunny has already died from old age hasn't it?… :)

The (more) serious point. Frontier Edition indicates to me that Vega isn't in a state were it should be launch and it's better imho to have a good launch and a solid foundation to build upon with future revisions than have mass disappointment that is fixed a month later after the PR disaster has already occurred. Anyway, that's my opinion based upon the bits of the rumours I have heard 4th hand from those dodgy click bait websites so it is probably worth less than studying chicken entrails :D
 
This all business of running two pc's side by side and asking people if they can tell the difference, don't know about anyone else but to me this sounds like sure vega is slower than nvidia but it's cheaper and you can hardly notice the difference anyway

I don't even think it's cheaper, hence why they are having to factor in the price of freesync v gsync...
 
Yes it is a bit rubbish. No one really cares about all this smoke and mirrors BS. Just tell us the performance and tell us the price, that is all anyone wants to know.

Nvidia gave us everything we needed to know, specs, relative performance and price about 3 weeks before launch for the 1080 and 1070. AMD need to stop all this rubbish and just give people the information they want.

Honestly, what do you expect? I mean, think about it for a bit: put yourself in the shoes of someone at AMD's marketing department and then someone at Nvidia's.

If you were working for AMD and knew you had a dog of a card (slower than the competition, more power hungry, expensive if you factor out the Freesync/Gsync factor, and also arriving quite late) what would you do? They're obviously doing the best they can out of the situation. They're mixing in the Freesync/Gsync factor for price reasons (e.g. to point out that Vega vs Pascal is not cheap, but Vega+Freesync is cheaper than Pascal+Gsync). They're doing blind tests to point out that "sure it's slower, but at these speeds you can't tell the difference". And so on and so on...

Meanwhile the marketing guy at Nvidia is sitting at a desk and in come the techies with: "it's faster, it's cool and quiet, it's early and has no competition" I mean how hard is your job right? No need for smoke, no need for BS, just tell the performance and the (inflated because ...why not?) price and you're done.
 
It looks like Linus is gong to rip AMD a new one next week. skip to 21:38ish


He comes across as a pure idiot there. Pretty much saying the people that give his video a thumbs down are dumb or fan boys. If he is doing just a lot of gaming benchmarks then sure it's not going to come across great at all as it hasn't in every other review. If he adds in benchmarks for what the card was meant for and it still comes across as rubbish then fair play but from what i have seen it does pretty well in pro benchmarks. The FE is definitely not a card gamers should be buying so Linus is not going to be telling us anything that we already don't know. As a gamer you would be daft with the current benchmarks to buy an FE instead of Titan Xp or 1080ti for that matter. This late in the day why is he even doing a video as he is probably one of the youtuber's that will receive a gaming card for review in the next couple of weeks hopefully or has he been taken of the list and this will be his reply.
 
Sounds like they don't like FE for gaming. Another site benching a non-gaming card with games and giving no thought to what it's actually been made for. Next they will be telling you skis are **** for track running.
Lol

You might want to relAX that Vega is not for gaming since They are the ones explicitly selling it as a card for gaming, shipping g it with drivers that have a gaming mode,and they even compared it to a Nicosia gaming card using Nicosia gaming g drivers.



Stop with this complete nonsense, makes you look ridiculous
 
Lol

You might want to relAX that Vega is not for gaming since They are the ones explicitly selling it as a card for gaming, shipping g it with drivers that have a gaming mode,and they even compared it to a Nicosia gaming card using Nicosia gaming g drivers.



Stop with this complete nonsense, makes you look ridiculous

It definitely needs testing in a gaming sense as that's one of the features but it also has to be tested in non gaming tests as it's meant equally or more for that. It would not have came out with 16gb of HBM otherwise. Balanced reviews to show the pro's and cons so certainly not just pure gaming benchmarks or you are not reviewing what the card is specifically released for.

I think we can all agree, if all you want to do is game then don't be buying a Vega FE card as there are far better options.
 
How can amd make true audio come to life in games? Developers need to use it but they dont. Amd has made it availible and its upto devs to use it. Its like dx11 is allrdy availible to use and has been used for a while. Now dx12 and vulkan and mantle is available to use devs need to start using it properly not patching crap in for in order to utilise it properly. AMD cant make then use it. What sould they do? Develop the games for them?

Developers wont use it, as they have no market share, thats what they need first, like i said earlier.

They ain't going to bother with TrueAudio, if only about 10 people have it, we saw it with Vulkan, and everything else they've done, Vulkan, its a piece of **** to do, one bloke, couple of hrs, yet no one was interested in it, they had to get rid of it in the end, then when Kronos took it, and Nvidia jumped on board (as they wouldn't touch it when it was under AMD), who have the market, it came back to life, and now the devs are all over it, and the games are a coming.

Dx12s the same, its only being patched into Dx11 laters in the odd game here, there, as its AMD only at present, yes Nvidia can do Dx12, but not very well, as they are mainly Dx11, but thats supposed to be changing with Volta, thats supposed to be geared for 12, and if it is, then we'll see Dx12 explode into life, just like Vulkan, as the devs will be all over it, and we'll be able to finally say goodbye to the odd Dx11'er, patched 12 laters, but until then, may as well just forget about it.


Lol

You might want to relAX that Vega is not for gaming since They are the ones explicitly selling it as a card for gaming, shipping g it with drivers that have a gaming mode,and they even compared it to a Nicosia gaming card using Nicosia gaming g drivers.



Stop with this complete nonsense, makes you look ridiculous

Plus they said you can use the gaming drivers on it (RX ones).
 
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Lol

You might want to relAX that Vega is not for gaming since They are the ones explicitly selling it as a card for gaming, shipping g it with drivers that have a gaming mode,and they even compared it to a Nicosia gaming card using Nicosia gaming g drivers.



Stop with this complete nonsense, makes you look ridiculous

I'm not sure how you can look at AMDs FE page and conclude that it's a gaming card, they're clearly marketing it as a workstation/creative card: https://pro.radeon.com/en-us/product/radeon-vega-frontier-edition/

AMD give the option to game on it, that doesn't mean AMD are explicitly selling it as a gaming card.

As TheRealDeal mentioned, it needs testing in all areas. No one in their right mind would buy an FE purely for gaming.
 
Exactly. I can do my weekly shopping in a tank, but it's not the ideal vehicle. And there are no RX drivers for the FE to use. Yet the usual suspects point at how badly it plays games compared to the Ti, and say the card is a failure, when it's not even the card anyone in their right minds is going to buy for playing games.

Nvidia Shill Squad out in force again.
 
I'm not sure how you can look at AMDs FE page and conclude that it's a gaming card, they're clearly marketing it as a workstation/creative card: https://pro.radeon.com/en-us/product/radeon-vega-frontier-edition/

AMD give the option to game on it, that doesn't mean AMD are explicitly selling it as a gaming card.

As TheRealDeal mentioned, it needs testing in all areas. No one in their right mind would buy an FE purely for gaming.

From that FE page you linked too.

I Just Want to Game
If you want to game on a Windows® platform, get your driver here and switch to “Gaming Mode.”

That is them saying, that it is just a gaming card, and thats why it doesn't make sense.

As i said earlier in the thread, they should have put what Raja said there, if you just want to game, then wait for the RX.
 
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Week Monday at least we'll have something solid, even if it's just bull**** AMD slides!!! :D (they both do it)

Honestly though, not expecting proper reviews til a week after that at least :(
 
I was wondering, is there any professional workloads that take advantage yet of the 2 x FP16 performance ? Or is it one of those things where new tools have to be created for that ? I'm curious as to whether they had professionals in mind for the 2 x FP16 or gamers (with us hearing about it first for the PS4 pro)
 
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