Overs 40's : Are you Happy with your lot?

I was more offended at him referring to my kids as brats and a drain on the planets resources to be honest. Like I said, I don't feel the need to personally insult people I disagree with.
It's children like yours that will keep paying into an NHS and tax system to keep him when he is old. It's children like that will become doctor's and nurses that will care for him when he is old and crapping his pants and wetting the bed.
 
40 next year, but I'm short (5' 4"), disabled (not road legal either), can't have kids for genetic reasons. No woman wants a short guy who can't drive and can't have kids. So it's gameover as it is until whatever unfolds in my next life.

I know it's easy to say this as someone who hasn't had your struggles with the opposite sex but your own happiness isn't dependant on a woman, in fact those who go into relationships believing that usually end up worse off. Nobody cares about you more than you, and love is confined to moments and requires effort, it's not some magical feeling that makes everyone happy forever after or the world would be far more delightful if so.
 
It's children like yours that will keep paying into an NHS and tax system to keep him when he is old. It's children like that will become doctor's and nurses that will care for him when he is old and crapping his pants and wetting the bed.

To be fair, yes, children like them. The chances of it actually being them is very slim, which was kinda his point, which was there are far too many. More than we need.

**EDIT** In fact, if truly the world is better if we limit the amount of children being added to it (I'm not saying it is, just hypothesising) then it would be quite selfish to have them just because you want them, no?
 
It's children like yours that will keep paying into an NHS and tax system to keep him when he is old. It's children like that will become doctor's and nurses that will care for him when he is old and crapping his pants and wetting the bed.

Exactly. To be honest, given how bitter he is and his apparent hatred towards children it appears his decision not to procreate was in fact the right one. He alluded to my children growing up in misery, and it's clear from his own comments why he would think such a thing.

To be fair, yes, children like them. The chances of it actually being them is very slim, which was kinda his point, which was there are far too many. More than we need.

Well I've got a daughter just about to start University in September to study law, so hopefully she gets to pay a decent amount into the tax system so that we have the money to pay people to care for us all when we are too old to do it... carers, doctors and nurses who are unarguably, other people's children.
 
You seem to have taken it very personally. Please don't. I don't think anyone is saying you shouldn't have had kids, or yours are more of a drain on earth's resources or anything like that.

Look how much the earth's population has ballooned recently. Surely we're heading for trouble at some point. Already a reasonably large proportion of the planet is struggling, no?
 
I believe that the planet recycles itself. The dead will re-manifest. I say 'manifest' instead of soul, as not to make it a religious debate. I don't care much for religion.

What evidence do you have that the dead will re-manifest? Surely this kind of mumbo jumbo only makes sense if we have a soul, otherwise your recycled atoms become a completely different organism.
 
46 here and life hit a wall in my 40's in the form of a chronic illness that the NHS can't find leaving me to get on with it.

Other than the obvious impact of something like this happening it has made us look at how we were living our lives. Essentially, the wrong way ( in our opinion anyway)! Up until now life has been a grind of trying to climb various ladders covered in slime that you keep falling off of. Chasing that dream that we get fed I guess of owning a house, earning high salaries, being a good citizen etc. I think we have come to the conclusion that a simpler, less stressful life is what it is all about and are moving towards that. I guess we were lucky in that our kids have left home and were doing their own thing before I fell ill.

I'm not sure we would have felt like this had my health remained the same, we would have just gone on as we were in a life that we were both unhappy in looking back. I guess sudden illness is one of those things that makes you sit back and take stock of things.
 
You seem to have taken it very personally. Please don't. I don't think anyone is saying you shouldn't have had kids, or yours are more of a drain on earth's resources or anything like that.

Look how much the earth's population has ballooned recently. Surely we're heading for trouble at some point. Already a reasonably large proportion of the planet is struggling, no?
The problem is the redistribution of resources not number of people.
 
The problem is the redistribution of resources not number of people.

Maybe at the moment. but I'm talking about the future, hence the use of the word 'heading'.

Chasing that dream that we get fed I guess of owning a house, earning high salaries, being a good citizen etc.

I don't think I've been fed anything and I certainly wouldn't call it a dream, it's just logical surely? I would rather pay a mortgage than rent. That gives me more disposable income. I would rather earn a high salary than low salary. That gives me more disposable income. Whilst I understand money doesn't buy happiness, it can possibly lead to a more interesting life with more opportunities.
 
Maybe at the moment. but I'm talking about the future, hence the use of the word 'heading'.



I don't think I've been fed anything and I certainly wouldn't call it a dream, it's just logical surely? I would rather pay a mortgage than rent. That gives me more disposable income. I would rather earn a high salary than low salary. That gives me more disposable income. Whilst I understand money doesn't buy happiness, it can possibly lead to a more interesting life with more opportunities.

You don't think we are fed a correct lifestyle through the media? Interesting it's certainly something we do. They have to otherwise how would we pay for anything they want us to buy? I'm not being critical of it or people that chase it, we did it.

Overall for us the investment in that lifestyle led us to feeling life was just a massive grind and we weren't especially happy when something happened to make us stop and look at it.
 
My wife and I both turned 65 this year and have been married 30years (2nd for us both) and I promised when this happened that I would take us on a cruise. I had a good job but working conditions were very poor but the other staff were brilliant and we all looked after each other and I spent over 30 years in this job. I retired with a good pension at 55 but have done voluntery work since then, you must have an interest or a wee job otherwise you will fester. I have now got my State Pension but have had problems with the Inland Revenue which hopefully is sorted so we are both looking forward to our cruise. Forgot this will be both our first time at sea and at the moment all is going well. We have the normal bills to pay but no debt and the house is ours and we realise that we are a lot better off than a lot of folk.
 
A rare thing you hear nowadays. Married for 30 years. Seems marriage is the last thing if it ever happens with most.
 
42 here, never been as fit/strong as I am now Gyming it 5 days a week hitting the weights eating right.

Have a great family with my other half (been together for 24 years) and 3 kids I love more than life.

The only downer for me personally is work, I'm locked in a job I no longer like but because it pays so well I cannot afford to change to something else I might enjoy doing because of the wage cut and being the only earner in our family, oh well only 26 years till retirement...

If I could change anything it would be have a little more money but that goes without saying for most people.
 
You don't think we are fed a correct lifestyle through the media? Interesting it's certainly something we do. They have to otherwise how would we pay for anything they want us to buy? I'm not being critical of it or people that chase it, we did it.

No, I think society will dictate some things as being right, as it should, but how might the media have influenced me to get a mortgage? As I said, I'm finally sure that was a decision based on logic.

I also don't really see why owning a house would be a 'dream' I might have?
 
Christ, I'd still have the hangover shakes at midday the next day haha ! Beers do not go down well when in that state

:D Beers don't go down well. A few pints of soda/lime to test the water in the pub first. If in doubt back to bed and hide under the duvet lol
 
Hmm they say life begins at 40..
* house
* new car
* wife
* unfortunately the wife, mother nature + all the assistance you can buy = no kids
* job that means long hours = no time for proper exercise etc

I would love to move to the coast, do some sports (rather than 'at the gym') with something like kayaking or windsurfing. However the first three + the expense of paying for the fourth equals a need for the job.

Will be working until I drop dead. Given the current velocity that is likely to be sooner rather than later.
 
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