Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

[AMDPower]

They would love to go after the 1080 Ti or even Titan Xp but you can only use what is available in the tank.

AMD need to offer better value for money than you get with the GTX 1080 and all will be fine, if they don't people won't buy Vega just because it is expensive and made by AMD.

Under normal circumstances you are correct but with the predicted hashrates miners will take all the stock fast AMD could charge more and still sell these well. and Vega 56 will be like hens teeth.

 

[opethdisciple]

I imagine it's going to take a couple of weeks for testers to get through all the permutations of testing that needs doing.

 

[Kaapstad]

Under normal circumstances you are correct but with the predicted hashrates miners will take all the stock fast AMD could charge more and still sell these well. and Vega 56 will be like hens teeth.

Miners may take them but it will not do gamers or AMDs long term user base/market share much good.

 

[five8five]

They would love to go after the 1080 Ti or even Titan Xp but you can only use what is available in the tank.

AMD need to offer better value for money than you get with the GTX 1080 and all will be fine, if they don't people won't buy Vega just because it is expensive and made by AMD.

I don't think they can though if they want to make money.

No magic bullet driver then.

 

[TNA]

https://videocardz.com/71771/final-radeon-rx-vega-64-3dmark-performance



Anyone spot the big problem?

Spoiler

Timespy is the only DX12 benchmark in the pic above and Vega 64 gets beat by a GTX 1080.

I wonder if the final drivers will give some additional scores.

Not really bothered about 3DMark scores anyway, Nvidia tend to do better in them with similar cards. I am interested in benchmarks from games.

 

[Zeed]

I wonder if the final drivers will give some additional scores.
Not really bothered about 3DMark scores anyway, Nvidia tend to do better in them with similar cards. I am interested in benchmarks from games.

This is the FINAL DRIVER...

Yesterday reviewers received their first RX Vega 64 samples, along with the final driver. Here are the final benchmark results of this new card, compared to GTX 1080 Ti (factory-OC), 1080 (factory-OC) and 1070 (stock clocks).

Note: for GPU score it doesn’t really matter which CPU is being used, but since some reviewers already started testing Threadripper and Vega, I thought it might be interesting to know where the performance of AMD HEDT platform sits.

Note 2: The clock speed reported by 3DMark is a peak clock, it may or may not mean that the card was overclocked at the time of testing.

 

[Kaapstad]

I wonder if the final drivers will give some additional scores.

Not really bothered about 3DMark scores anyway, Nvidia tend to do better in them with similar cards. I am interested in benchmarks from games.

Those scores are with the final drivers it states at the top of the article.

Having said that there may be improvements with future driver releases.

 

[five8five]

Was just about to post that they are the final drivers. Disappointing results............but expected

 

[opethdisciple]

Thing is tho, you don't just put HBCC, FP16 and this DSBR hardware in a product and not use it at some point. Current games probably just do not use it. But future titles might once the hardware becomes available.

Also gives AMD something to okay with driver side moving forward.

 

[TheRealDeal]

Tbh there are already better scores for instance the frontier edition clocked just over 1700mhz is scoring way higher on the Graphics score. How have they got a hold of all these results in the first place. I doubt they are allowed to upload there scores at this point in time.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13215190

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Sorry if it has been posted before.

dont worry kaap, its and AMD thread, like being in a shark cage!

and honestly amd are trying to offer value on it, be means that aren't great- again i point out the fact if any one has seen an asus reference card

 

[Zeed]

Thing is tho, you don't just put HBCC, FP16 and this DSBR hardware in a product and not use it at some point. Current games probably just do not use it. But future titles might once the hardware becomes available.

Also gives AMD something to okay with driver side moving forward.

ye they start using them in 3 generations of gpus FROM NOW.... Like always :/

 

[opethdisciple]

ye they start using them in 3 generations of gpus FROM NOW.... Like always :/

True

 

[Kaapstad]

Tbh there are already better scores for instance the frontier edition clocked just over 1700mhz is scoring way higher on the Graphics score. How have they got a hold of all these results in the first place. I doubt they are allowed to upload there scores at this point in time.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13215190

By the look of it that card is very overclocked, check out the memory clockspeed for example.

When you really push the cards 3dmark often gets the GPU core clockspeed wrong.

Here is a link to one of my Titans that is overclocked and according to 3dmark it is running some very odd clocks.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/17179775

 

[ubersonic]

Under normal circumstances you are correct but with the predicted hashrates miners will take all the stock fast AMD could charge more and still sell these well. and Vega 56 will be like hens teeth.

I'm still taking those hashrate rumors with a pinch of salt, triple the performance of the Frontier Edition (which is essentially the same card as Vega 64 just with more VRAM) just seems too good to be true simply from driver refinements.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

also amd driver will had vega optimised for Mining .....
would have been nice for them to have kept it in Beta then updated Vega afterwards to give gamers a shot in

 

[Zeed]

I really want reviewers to compare both AMD and nVidia cards on both AMD and Intel CPUs. This will hopefully highlight the nVidia on Ryzen issue to people as well.

I'm not having ANY problems on my NV + Ryzen combo... I had more with 290x+5820k all sorts of problems :/

 

[ubersonic]

Those scores are with the final drivers it states at the top of the article.

The final drivers before launch, it's not uncommon for cards to gain serious improvements from post launch driver updates (I.E HD7900 series). OFC I am not saying that "will" happen, just that it has in the past.

I'm not having ANY problems on my NV + Ryzen combo

Me neither.

 

[TheRealDeal]

By the look of it that card is very overclocked, check out the memory clockspeed for example.

When you really push the cards 3dmark often gets the GPU core clockspeed wrong.

Here is a link to one of my Titans that is overclocked and according to 3dmark it is running some very odd clocks.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/17179775

Same guy on ultra. His memory is likely giving him some performance but he is only scoring 2 percent above the scores on there so the clocks are not pushed way higher. Looks like Vega clocks are getting read correctly.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13215192

 

[Kaapstad]

Same guy on ultra. His memory is likely giving him some performance but he is only scoring 2 percent above the scores on there so the clocks are not pushed way higher. Looks like Vega clocks are getting read correctly.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/13215192

Don't think so

He is not going to overclock the memory and underclock the core !!!!