Poll: Winter Is Coming - HBO's A Game of Thrones [READ WARNING]

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Who will rule Westeros?

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What you have to remember is that the entire end game - the wrap up of ALL the threads and all the battles for Westeros and all the explanations, and all the games have less scheduled screen time left than the plot of this season from when Jon met Danny. And in the scale of the story across all seasons as you rewatch it, it feels like maybe a week ago. Ned Stark was alive for more episodes than we have left to the end and his story line is as brief as they come in the old GoT.

What it means (and I know this is ironic coming from me, since I whinged from page 98 about time jumps in GoT) is that unless you want to start worldwide petition "don't fudge our GoT" before they start editing season 8, we have to let them fork it up timewise, travelwise, plotwise, because there is literally not a second of screen time to spare for anything else than end game.
 
It's also got a lot to do with character development. In earlier seasons things like the Arya/Hound or Jamie/Brienne travels were given plenty of minutes because the audience getting to know them better was as important as what they were doing/where they were going, compared to now where there's no more characters to introduce and we're already intimately familar with everyone.

It's easy to see why they skip having scenes where people are getting from A to B if the characters travelling together are already familiar with each other; we know Brienne and Pod are going to KL on Sansa's behest which isn't a short jaunt for example, but we've already had a load of scenes of them two on the road together establishing their characters etc, so there's little point in wasting precious screen time showing it again.
 
I'm gonna go ahead and make a bold prediction for the finale:

The Mountain dies. I reckon Cersei won't forge a truce unless someone can beat her champion and several people get cut down only for The Hound to step up and finally put his brother to rest.
 
LeMson said:
Bored, nothing to do until Sept when I start a year of work exp :x so rewatching, I honestly don't remember what happened in s3 to s6 its like a black hole, really crappy using the same actor, shame shame shame :p
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They've done that a few times. The first guy that Gendry wasted with his hammer the other week was also one of the actors in the play that Arya watched in Bravos. It doesn't jar me as much as when they recast Dario overnight.
 
Psymonkee said:
I'm gonna go ahead and make a bold prediction for the finale:

The Mountain dies. I reckon Cersei won't forge a truce unless someone can beat her champion and several people get cut down only for The Hound to step up and finally put his brother to rest.
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Why do I hear airhorns all of a sudden?
 
I'm looking forward to Jamie seeing Jon again. The first and only time they met was S1E1 in passing (although not before the former had a joke at the latter's expense for joining the Nights Watch), Jon was a boy who'd never drawn his sword in anger and all wet behid the ears, Jamie had both hands and was at the height of his smugness. How things change over 7 years.
 
It'll be a funny reunion. I recall Jaime mocked Jon for defending the realm from imaginary things. Will be quite the 'I told you so' to drop a wight at his feet.
 
Anyone else suspect that the wildfire is basically petrol? They probably coloured it green originally for tax purposes.
 
Psymonkee said:
I'm gonna go ahead and make a bold prediction for the finale:

The Mountain dies. I reckon Cersei won't forge a truce unless someone can beat her champion and several people get cut down only for The Hound to step up and finally put his brother to rest.
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Hopefully with a sword that ignites berric style, would be great.
 
Somnambulist said:
It's also got a lot to do with character development. In earlier seasons things like the Arya/Hound or Jamie/Brienne travels were given plenty of minutes because the audience getting to know them better was as important as what they were doing/where they were going, compared to now where there's no more characters to introduce and we're already intimately familar with everyone.

It's easy to see why they skip having scenes where people are getting from A to B if the characters travelling together are already familiar with each other; we know Brienne and Pod are going to KL on Sansa's behest which isn't a short jaunt for example, but we've already had a load of scenes of them two on the road together establishing their characters etc, so there's little point in wasting precious screen time showing it again.
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exactly, plus plenty of the characters that were in separate arcs are now all together in the same arc, I can't believe that others are still moaning about this.

The only potential valid 'time travel' objection was the super fast raven in the last episode that managed to flay from East Watch to Dragonstone in less than a day, that is with the caveat that we assume they were only stuck on the ice island for less than a day too... the counter of course, if we're bringing physics into it, is that it would take a few days (3 or 4 possibly) for the ice to freeze again and so the raven journey and that of the massive dragon then become 'plausible' again. You could have course just go with the fact that ravens are the default telegram system and are deemed to be 'quick' in the world of GoT... given we've got flying dragons do the ravens need to fly at the same slow speed as those in the real world (not to mention that the whole system would be far more convoluted in the real world using say pigeons as pigeons fly home (a single destination), they don't fly to some destination of your choosing ergo such a messaging system would require the regular transportation and storage of the ravens belonging to other locations you'd want to communicate with in future)

Previous objections prior to the last episode have just been silly flawed ones essentially along the lines of the time passed between journeys varying and this somehow being a problem - which completely ignores that the time between scenes (and indeed episodes, seasons...) has never been constant.

Bubo said:
Anyone else suspect that the wildfire is basically petrol? They probably coloured it green originally for tax purposes.
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lol agricultural fuel smuggled in from highgarden no doubt :D
 
I can't speak for others but I have no problem with the time jumps of the show but I do however have a problem with character development. I can appreciate that we don't need lots or anywhere near as much as earlier seasons but it hasn't gone lots to some, it feels more like lots to none. We don't need it to flesh out the characters but you still need some character development to help sell their current position, choices and actions etc. and I do think some of this is being glossed over.
 
Caught up now as have been on holiday this week...

Patchy episode. Not impressed with the Hound saying "bitching". No one has said it before and no one ever said it in the books, so it seems out of place. Arya and Sansa? Meh. Timescale? Unfathomable. Chains? What the actual...

There's some standard end of series house clearing going on. It always happens at the end of these things that characters get killed off at an increasing rate. By the time Dany gets to sit the throne no one will be left.
 
Greboth said:
I can't speak for others but I have no problem with the time jumps of the show but I do however have a problem with character development. I can appreciate that we don't need lots or anywhere near as much as earlier seasons but it hasn't gone lots to some, it feels more like lots to none. We don't need it to flesh out the characters but you still need some character development to help sell their current position, choices and actions etc. and I do think some of this is being glossed over.
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Yep, 100% this. It's just dumb stuff for the masses now, which is a shame, I'd be annoyed if I'd written the books and they were essentially spoiled by lazy TV producers.

Why are there so few episodes? What's the rush to finish it?
 
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