Pewdiepie racism

I've never understood this streaming stuff. I never got into twitch until 5 - 6 months ago from watching GamerMuscle who does sim racing. Then started watching some top Quake Champions players just to see how they play.

GamerMuscle is good because I do not recall hearing him curse but so far everyone else I've watched, everyone curses a lot! In a very loud angrily way. Short fused stuff. The other thing I don't understand is I keep hearing hardware companies talk of their dislike about all the cursing then Youtube stepped in to not pay people with all their profanity as a punishment. Yet the big hardware names keep going to these people. Why complain if you're not going to act?

RocketJumpNinja is another good one who doesn't curse or at least I've not heard in any of his videos. The thing I've always noticed though with so many streamers and their anger or cursing. It eventually leads to casual racism or racist songs they play even if they themselves haven't acted it out.

I do find this twitch/streaming thing quite bizarre at times how so many people are doing it these days. I don't think I would like to try it. I mean why would so many people want to watch me if I tried to go down that path? Let alone it seems they have to do it each day for 3 - 5 hours non stop... Quite a strange time.

I do admit it is handy if you want to see what new games are like but for it to become a lifestyle? Isn't that weird?


Many people get a kick from watching (want to be) famous people do normal things. Like cooking, sleeping, arguing or gaming. It's not bizzare it's reality TV in a different context.
 
Funny how this video from another twitch streamer playing the same game gets Ignored.

https://youtu.be/LIAOhjiBz_4

Yet the N word is repeated more than once and they even pretend to do a Isis style killing.

Is she famous as a streamer, in the same way as Pewdiepie

Or just a middling nobody?

If she's a nobody it's hardly going to make the news. Most parents will know the name Pewdiepie
 
The most depressing thing to come of all this is the attitude that racist abuse is just part of gaming culture, so we should all just get used to it.
 
The most depressing thing to come of all this is the attitude that racist abuse is just part of gaming culture, so we should all just get used to it.
Aye.

I don't think I've ever been racist in game, none of my friends have used that word in games I've played with them, I don't even think I've seen/heard it very often* by randoms in games.
Now it could be that I'm playing with slightly more mature/pleasant people, or that I don't play the sorts of games that attract the idiots and kids**, but it's certainly not something I would accept as part of gaming culture.

I find it pretty sad that we're in 2017 and such comments can be written off as "part of gaming culture", I don't remember it being an open part of it even 20 years ago.


*I can't remember the last time.

**Although given the voice comms on some of the games there are definitely kids playing them.
 
Exactly what I was thinking. Is he an idiot who said something in the heat of the moment? Yes. Is he a person who hates other races? No.

Heat of the moment? In a game? If it was a real battlefield I could maybe understand but a video game? You spawn, you die. It's a game.

I'm surprised so many people on here are complaining about this, there is literally nothing to be done so best get over it and move on.

Are we not allowed to have a discussion without personal emotions? Even for those who seem to think we'll twist it and make out certain people are sensitive souls that has never heard such language?
 
He probably uses the word often behind the scenes and considering he has a history in this context I think it's safe to say he is a closet racist.

The history being he has never used it in any context where the word has malicious intent?

As for your point, he does have a huge audience which consists of children and he earns money from it so some responsability derives from that. Not only that but he's one of the most important "faces" of Youtube, what he does affects others down the food chain.
Because he makes money he now has to act in a certain way? He's his own boss. Advertisers/Sponsors are free to stop giving him money. He can have his Youtube videos demonetized if advertisers want to. He probably makes money streaming on twitch which is people willingly giving him money. So people want to give him money for the way he acts. Again he still has no responsibility. He got to be one of the the most important face on youtube for what he does and how he does it. So he's doing something right no matter if you agree with what he does or not.

Secondly... food chain?? What???
 
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Is she famous as a streamer, in the same way as Pewdiepie

Or just a middling nobody?

If she's a nobody it's hardly going to make the news. Most parents will know the name Pewdiepie

I've never heard of her before but the problem is bigger than Pewdipie he said the word once, yes he's stupid and shouldn't have, but this video is worse, the fact they are laughing, pretending to expect someone on Twitch which should have rules to prevent this, and if they are broken the host/streamer should be removed.

The reason I stumbled on the video was YouTube had it in the home section of the app, reading comments just goes to show that it is rife within gaming and people aren't worried about what they say.
 
Reading back the past 10 or so pages you can tell this forum is about 99% white lol

'its fine, black people use the term regularly, if they didn't use it all the time then stuff like this wouldn't happen'

What a time to be alive.

He is not a kids entertainer

He really is, same goes for vast majority of streamers such as dr disrespect etc

100% kids entertainers, modern day Timmy mallets.
 
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I've never heard of her before but the problem is bigger than Pewdipie he said the word once, yes he's stupid and shouldn't have, but this video is worse, the fact they are laughing, pretending to expect someone on Twitch which should have rules to prevent this, and if they are broken the host/streamer should be removed.

The reason I stumbled on the video was YouTube had it in the home section of the app, reading comments just goes to show that it is rife within gaming and people aren't worried about what they say.

Well I keep hearing the media and joe public screaming freedom of speech... but with no responsibility. If you stamp on it, it's then censorship. More screaming.
 
It's amazing. So apparently no one has to take any responsibility for what they say or do now, because they don't choose who watches or listens. Apparently this also applies if you are the "most important face" on YouTube.

There has to be a balance and a place to draw the line. This isn't about censorship it's about common sense. I think expecting someone who has 50million regular viewers to simply not blurt out the most emotionally and politically charged word in current existence is a reasonable place to start drawing it. Especially when that person is, as someone else said, a modern day Timmy Mallet. If you are an adult and enjoy this guy's content then you should probably have a word with yourself.

It is when it isn't going their way. The media/press are good at it as well.
 
He really is, same goes for vast majority of streamers such as dr disrespect etc

100% kids entertainers, modern day Timmy mallets.
So far no one has been able to explain why, other than saying kids watch him. Kids watch South Park as well. There has to be responsibility with the parents here. Kids use the internet and have a lot more free time to use it. So naturally they are going to make up a large audience in any gaming related entertainment. I don't see people telling Dr Disrespect to watch his language. Everything from the pre rendered backdrops on his stream is pandering to the older audience for nostalgia.
It's amazing. So apparently no one has to take any responsibility for what they say or do now, because they don't choose who watches or listens. Apparently this also applies if you are the "most important face" on YouTube.

There has to be a balance and a place to draw the line. This isn't about censorship it's about common sense. I think expecting someone who has 50million regular viewers to simply not blurt out the most emotionally and politically charged word in current existence is a reasonable place to start drawing it. Especially when that person is, as someone else said, a modern day Timmy Mallet. If you are an adult and enjoy this guy's content then you should probably have a word with yourself.
Yeah OK so the guy doesn't have common sense. I repeat myself again. WHY ARE THE PARENTS NOT TAKING AN INTEREST IN WHAT THEIR KIDS ARE WATCHING AND STOPPING THEM FROM WATCHING THINGS THEY DON'T WANT THEIR KIDS TO SEE?

It's the same with the porn block ban. No one wants to take responsibility so it's better to block it.

How would you like to police what people say on the internet? Should we have it so to have a youtube/twitch account you need to give credit card details?
 
The history being he has never used it in any context where the word has malicious intent?

History being Nazi references or anti-Semitic shenanigans and the word itself is malicious.

Because he makes money he now has to act in a certain way? He's his own boss. Advertisers/Sponsors are free to stop giving him money. He can have his Youtube videos demonetized if advertisers want to. He probably makes money streaming on twitch which is people willingly giving him money. So people want to give him money for the way he acts. Again he still has no responsibility. He got to be one of the the most important face on youtube for what he does and how he does it. So he's doing something right no matter if you agree with what he does or not.

So for you, the only relevant criterion is success? Nothing else matters?

Secondly... food chain?? What???

It was a metaphor, he's the top youtuber hence top of the food chain.
 
like others have said, if blacks through it around ever other line in songs [using the term loosely] and films, they can't really complain when it becomes part of the public consciousness and others use it; they're the ones making it socially acceptable to use ~ and that's using it in both a companiable sense and an insulting sense. same goes for all words/insults.
Black musicians didn't introduce the word into the public consciousness. Being called a ****** on a regular basis was a fact of life when/where they grew up.

Sadly yes

Hence #gamergate, which for most people clearly wasn't about journalistic integrity in gaming, but an excuse to bash loads of female developers.
Gamer culture is toxic - its defining traits are bitterness, mindless 'edginess' and being totally unproductive (for every good mod there's about 60 million words of Sonic fanfiction).
 
The problem is that all context goes out of the window and that is why we complain about political correctness.

If I were to use the N word on this forum whilst reciting a particular lyric in a rap song for example I would likely get a suspension or the very least a warning.

So the word cannot be used at all, people don't care about why the word was used, just that it WAS used by someone and that's enough to set off the alarm bells.

With regards to Pewdiepie I suspect he has racist tendancies because in the heat of the moment he blurted that word out. It wasn't directly said to attack a black person but it was said in a way that it was meant to disparage someone.

But my point ultimately is that people never seem to look at context and are very quick to make accusations against others because of their own misunderstandings.
 
So far no one has been able to explain why, other than saying kids watch him.

because thats a legitimate reason for classing him as a kid entertainer, same goes for KSI etc.... their core fanbase is children/teens.

Kids watch South Park as well.

South Park appeals to all ages though, it's massively popular with adults and always has been. Pewdipie, KSI etc would lose 95% of the views if kids were somehow banned from using youtube.

They literally make content aimed at children, the hammy overacting, the silly noises.

Modern day Timmy Mallets


There has to be responsibility with the parents here. Kids use the internet and have a lot more free time to use it. So naturally they are going to make up a large audience in any gaming related entertainment.

Sure but how exactly do you police everything your kids do ? Do you have kids ? It's mission impossible. The more you tell them not to do something the more they want to do it.

No puberty ridden kid is going to listen to his parents telling him not to watch porn...
 
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