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*** Official Ryzen Owners Thread ***

Lol chill guys. Defo goin for the 1700X. Had my heart set on it since it was launched. Miss my FX-51 days n prob wont have time to overclock till much later.

AndreiD said:
Go Ryzen 7 or Threadripper then, but be warned that IOMMU isn't exactly hassle free on either of those platforms yet. Ironically it works well on Intel's platforms.
But if AMD is a must, 1700X is a good choice and it seems to be priced quite alright nowadays, 4Ghz isn't assured, but 3.9Ghz shouldn't be difficult to get.
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You sure about IOMmU support bud?
Ive always found it vice versa. With Intel its more hit n miss. First only certain cpu models supported iommu, then only certain boards (very select workstation type ines). A simple BIOS update on those that had it could mess it all up however.

All my AMD chips however natively supported it along with their respective high end boards.

Still not sure whether to get a cheapo msi for 150 or splash the 250 for asrock top end or somat. I just want it to support the latest greatest tech for these days n last a bit. Usb c 3.1 nvme etc .

Memory. Cba chasing them gains. Learnt from years ago its all like 1 or 2 fps at best, lots of effort. Stick it on xmp or woteva and let the mbrd config it. Best set to get? Highest speed but highest compatibility? 2x8 pref
 
zoomee said:
You sure about IOMmU support bud?...
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Memory. Cba chasing them gains. Learnt from years ago its all like 1 or 2 fps at best, lots of effort. Stick it on xmp or woteva and let the mbrd config it. Best set to get? Highest speed but highest compatibility? 2x8 pref
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It's to do with the IOMmU grouping, they lumped everything in the same group so you can't (for example) boot from the second gfx slot and pass through the primary or whatever. Some vendors are working on fixes for it apparently, and Wendel has released something of a patch for now. As for RAM, you can't go far wrong with the 8Pack edition TeamGroup 3200c14 stuff. You need Samsung B-Die mems for Ryzen ideally (which it is). Because of its 'infinity fabric' mesh design Ryzen speed scales with RAM speed, so there are definite gains when you climb up the MHz ladder. On a good board you can get decent speeds now the EFI are starting to mature.
 
Rainmaker said:
It's to do with the IOMmU grouping, they lumped everything in the same group so you can't (for example) boot from the second gfx slot and pass through the primary or whatever. Some vendors are working on fixes for it apparently, and Wendel has released something of a patch for now. As for RAM, you can't go far wrong with the 8Pack edition TeamGroup 3200c14 stuff. You need Samsung B-Die mems for Ryzen ideally (which it is). Because of its 'infinity fabric' mesh design Ryzen speed scales with RAM speed, so there are definite gains when you climb up the MHz ladder. On a good board you can get decent speeds now the EFI are starting to mature.
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Some motherboards have not all did tho. Thankfully we still have enthusiasts working within the industry it seems.
 
zoomee said:
I prefer corsair. Any of them sets recommended pls.

(Great info btw guys thanks)
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AFAIK Corsair is all Hynix and therefore not recommended for Ryzen. Anything at 8gb/stick running 3200 @ 14-14-14 should (almost certainly) be Samsung b-die and "just work". No guarantee that XMP will work on anything less :(
 
zoomee said:
I prefer corsair. Any of them sets recommended pls.

(Great info btw guys thanks)
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What size are you looking for? I posted a thread in memory asking about 16Gb sticks and it seems the Trident Z stuff with the B Die IC offers the best peformance for the money.
 
jigger said:
What size are you looking for? I posted a thread in memory asking about 16Gb sticks and it seems the Trident Z stuff with the B Die IC offers the best peformance for the money.
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I have 2x16 of Trident Z, and it runs at 3066 with no effort, just XMP and turn down the frequency one notch. 3200 has thus far eluded me however :(
 
DarkHorizon472 said:
I got corsair lpx 3200 initially, would only be completely stable at 2933, if spending that much spend the extra to get quality b die ram.
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Yes, what I am is saying is LPX Ver 4.31 is B-die, newer kits tend to be Ver 5.39 which is Hynix. Check the sticker on your RAM modules, or on the box, it will have the Ver # printed on it.
 
DarkHorizon472 said:
Mine are V5.39 like most new ones. Didn't know that until I bought them unfortunately.
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Yep, sucks that they changed it just at the wrong time. I've still got a 2x 8GB B-die pair left (3466), they should be put to use if I ever get round to it, maybe after Christmas at this rate. :p
 
GSkill is Hynix for the cheaper kits and B-die for the more expensive ones, timings are usually a giveaway, the C14 >3200 kits should be Samsung B-die.

Samsung does sell bog standard DDR4 like these 8GB sticks: https://geizhals.eu/samsung-dimm-8g....html?hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=pl&hloc=uk&hloc=eu
Apparently people on hardwareluxx are having pretty good luck with getting those DIMMs to >3000Mhz, even two of these: https://geizhals.de/samsung-dimm-16gb-m378a2k43bb1-cpb-a1354278.html apparently can get to around the 3000 mark.
 
jigger said:
Some motherboards have not all did tho. Thankfully we still have enthusiasts working within the industry it seems.
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Any ideas on those which didn't? IIRC the TaiChi (my otherwise favourite board) did, unfortunately. I know Gigabyte are supposed to be working on a fix, so I guess they did too. That leaves mostly Asus and MSI?...
 
I saw something on the new gigabyte beta BIOS for choosing whether to display from PCIe 1, 2 or 3 during boot, could that be it? I can post a pic later but don’t have a second card to test
 
gavinh87 said:
Thanks mate.
If you get time, or if you cba. Try removing the PSU cable after its been on for a while. This has a 100% record of getting my memory to fail training.
To get around this, I boot into bios with default values and load the overclock profile and all is fine again.
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At the tightest stable settings 3466 is F9 about 1 in 3. So sadly whilst looking promising ultimately no good. I may try some further tweaks at some point but unlikely to solve it. AGESA .7 on the horizon so see whether that brings anything to the table.
 
Ste said:
At the tightest stable settings 3466 is F9 about 1 in 3. So sadly whilst looking promising ultimately no good. I may try some further tweaks at some point but unlikely to solve it. AGESA .7 on the horizon so see whether that brings anything to the table.
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Personally I don't think it is fixable. Mine actually booted fine today :) Though I know it won't do it again later.
It is written in the overclocking documents that below 20c the IMC has boot issues, hence why after a few attempts (and the IMC has warmed up) it boots fine.
The folk at overclock.net have been using sleep instead of shutdown to eliminate this.

I've found myself turning it on and going to get a drink and when I come back its done, even without the F9 errors it is still quite slow to boot.
 
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