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*** Official Ryzen Owners Thread ***

4.1Ghz is the max if you're lucky on an 1800X, 4.3Ghz is the golden sample within golden samples territory, I don't think I've heard of anyone getting that high without LN2.
 
Thats slightly dissapointing.

If im gunna need a 1800x for 4ghz thats going to be costly!!

Might have to reserch it all first. Which asrock motherboard is recommended pls.?
 
gavinh87 said:
If he wants/needs 4ghz then he needs that high single core speed. You are only guaranteed that on a 1800x which costs more than a 8700k would. And we know the 8700k will clock higher.
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If you are happy to drop 2 cores, 4 treads and buy a dead platform the 8700K -might- be a better option than a Ryzen 8 core.
 
jigger said:
If you are happy to drop 2 cores, 4 treads and buy a dead platform the 8700K -might- be a better option than a Ryzen 8 core.
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When we did the sums the other day, comparing the 8700k and 1800x at stock in cinebench:
The 8700k was faster in single core by 25%
The 1800x was faster in multi core by 5%

I think that is a fair trade off.
 
gavinh87 said:
When we did the sums the other day, comparing the 8700k and 1800x at stock in cinebench:
The 8700k was faster in single core by 25%
The 1800x was faster in multi core by 5%

I think that is a fair trade off.
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Maybe, but again you draw your conclusions on assumptions. You need to pick your words more carefully maybe. Will, might and maybe have different meanings.
 
We all know Coffee Lake is just Kaby Lake on a supposedly more mature process (14nm++), even if it has 0% IPC improvement over Kaby, single threaded performance should still be much higher than regular Ryzen. The big question for me is multi-threaded performance, is that IPC and clock advantage on Coffee Lake going to bridge the 4 thread gap to Ryzen 7?

I'm curious if 14nm++ is just marketing or if it is indeed a refinement of 14nm+ (Kaby Lake). If Coffee Lake 6C can reach 5Ghz then 14nm++ isn't just a marketing gimmick.
 
gavinh87 said:
How is it crashing? What are you doing when it crashes? Are you overclocking?
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No overclocking just stock, I try to run windows update and it goes from 0 to 100% and then starts again and goes to 100% then back to 0% then it ends up crashing.

I can't install Nvidia drivers either, They tell me it's not compatible with this version of Windows which I imagine is because Windows needs updating but I can't get it too update. I've been at it all day now so I might give up until tomorrow as it's driving me mad
 
AndreiD said:
We all know Coffee Lake is just Kaby Lake on a supposedly more mature process (14nm++), even if it has 0% IPC improvement over Kaby, single threaded performance should still be much higher than regular Ryzen. The big question for me is multi-threaded performance, is that IPC and clock advantage on Coffee Lake going to bridge the 4 thread gap to Ryzen 7?

I'm curious if 14nm++ is just marketing or if it is indeed a refinement of 14nm+ (Kaby Lake). If Coffee Lake 6C can reach 5Ghz then 14nm++ isn't just a marketing gimmick.
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Looking at the physics score of 3dmark then yes https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/13596138/fs/13418487

Stock 8700k 5fps behind a 1700@ 3.9
 
nashathedog said:
No overclocking just stock, I try to run windows update and it goes from 0 to 100% and then starts again and goes to 100% then back to 0% then it ends up crashing.

I can't install Nvidia drivers either, They tell me it's not compatible with this version of Windows which I imagine is because Windows needs updating but I can't get it too update. I've been at it all day now so I might give up until tomorrow as it's driving me mad
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Sounds like you need a reinstall of windows.
 
AndreiD said:
We all know Coffee Lake is just Kaby Lake on a supposedly more mature process (14nm++), even if it has 0% IPC improvement over Kaby, single threaded performance should still be much higher than regular Ryzen. The big question for me is multi-threaded performance, is that IPC and clock advantage on Coffee Lake going to bridge the 4 thread gap to Ryzen 7?

I'm curious if 14nm++ is just marketing or if it is indeed a refinement of 14nm+ (Kaby Lake). If Coffee Lake 6C can reach 5Ghz then 14nm++ isn't just a marketing gimmick.
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A 6 core BroadwellE with half the memory bandwith and similar clockspeed. That will probably be a good indicator of performance as that seems pretty much what's on offer.
 
More or less, but Broadwell-E was on their first iteration of 14nm and couldn't really clock that highly. Skylake was also regular 14nm, but Kaby on 14nm+ could reach higher clocks, I wonder if 14nm++ is more than just marketing. I guess we'll find out in a few weeks.
 
AndreiD said:
More or less, but Broadwell-E was on their first iteration of 14nm and couldn't really clock that highly. Skylake was also regular 14nm, but Kaby on 14nm+ could reach higher clocks, I wonder if 14nm++ is more than just marketing. I guess we'll find out in a few weeks.
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Unless CoffeeMaker can hit the clockspeeds of SandyToes they will be pretty close in performance. You could probably expect around overclocker 5820K.
 
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