I think this is pretty good to show up the pro-second amendment nutters; https://www.indy100.com/article/ame...weapons-vegas-shooting-mass-shootings-7979086
Mass Shooting in Las Vegas
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I think you need to look at how the USA governmental system actually operates. If you do not control both houses you cannot pass through domestic policy changes, or if you do it will be subject to a cart load of amendments/additions. Donald Trump has a Republican majority in both houses, so whilst it would have course not be a simple task, he would have more chance of successfully passing significant legislative changes. Given the Republicans are beholden to the gun lobby it won't happen
again raises some really awkward questions about bomber command doesnt it
So governments commit terrorism daily according to your logic.
You are stuck in 21st century thinking. Tribal warfare has been the norm until very recently. It is deep within us and doesn't take all that much to come to the fore. If you feel suitably disconnected from another group and then that group presents what you see as a threat your fight or flight will kick in. If you fight then you will kill to protect what you believe.
Plenty people from Amazon tribes, Roman soldiers to modern military killed innocent people then came home and lived entirely peaceful lives. It is all just down to context.
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Never heard the term "State terror" / "State sponsored terror"?
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Yeah looks like it, the top pic looks like that's a 100 round mag, the bottom photo makes me think these could be genuine considering you can see a bolster hammer in the background which I assume he used to smash the windows!
Yep, it's a Surefire 100 round magazine (See pic below)
Yep, it's a Surefire 100 round magazine (See pic below)
Urgh.
The comparison between Obama's speech and Trumps says a lot, I listened to Trumps speech yesterday and afterwards I just forgot literally everything he said, I had to watch it again it was so crap - it was like some sort of lame priest dishing out scripture, what he said amounted to zero.
What will be interesting is how his speeches evolve over his term, as we go from shooting to shooting,
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The carpet matches the other photo circulating of the perpetrator so looks to be genuine.
Everyone screaming for tighter gun control as normal, but everything I've read about this specific case so far suggests he was perfectly normal & stable man, & wouldn't have been flagged by any background check or mental health assessment, & the weapons he used were modified single shot which are so numerous that no-one is seriously proposing are to be restricted anyway.
Everyone screaming for tighter gun control as normal, but everything I've read about this specific case so far suggests he was perfectly normal & stable man, & wouldn't have been flagged by any background check or mental health assessment, & the weapons he used were modified single shot which are so numerous that no-one is seriously proposing are to be restricted anyway.
doesn't look like a MB room though
tbh, the vast majority of gun crime is committed by seemingly normal and stable men, I'm not convinced by our ability to measure "normal and stable" everyone in the world has a terrible day, flies off the handle, or wants to hurt someone at some point, things get a little more complicated when you combine those moments with blanket gun ownership
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Indeed, define normality.
But allowing 100 round magazines is utterly insane!
You might as well remove the full auto ban as this tragedy clearly shows you can easily work around this with a large capacity mag and a bump gun mod! Then you have something almost as efficient and deadly as a full auto gun LEGALLY !!
You might as well remove the full auto ban as this tragedy clearly shows you can easily work around this with a large capacity mag and a bump gun mod! Then you have something almost as efficient and deadly as a full auto gun LEGALLY !!
but the republicans control both houses now but trump hasnt been able to get anything through....
Personally speaking I don't because its what they want, what America wants America gets and all that. I don't have a problem commenting on how utterly stupid I think they are for allowing it to happen though. Similarly I think only a moron wouldn't question the reasoning as to why they revere guns as they do and cling to a second amendment from an era where the guns in questions were breech or muzzle loaded rifles and really has no relevance in a modern context.
But ultimately what America wants, America gets and they should probably stop questioning why it keeps happening when they not only repeatedly reject the solution but their mentality is to arm more people, relax gun ownership regulations and make silencers legal at consumer level.
so a sensible restriction to straight pull or bolt action would have worked brilliantly in this case?
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