Sennheiser HD650 - The classic beauty in a grey dress Appreciation thread!

rids57 · 26 Sep 2017 at 15:58

They are more resolving and refined, so yes.

Your best bet is to get them off the rainforest and try them out yourself, though you will also need a decent headphone amp to drive them as they are 300ohm compared with the 50ohm HD599.
When you do first listen to them they will likely sound awful, muffled and dull - you have to give your brain time to adjust to the new signature, specially if your current headphones are much brighter. In my case, the first thing to come into focus was the drums, after about an hour I noticed they sounded like I was in the same room, so realistic. After that, over about another half an hour, everything else came into focus and I sat there for six hours straight listening in awe, it was a real auditory epiphany.

a66as · 27 Sep 2017 at 18:38

I got a xonar essence stx II that should be able to drive them?

rids57 · 27 Sep 2017 at 20:10

Yep, I have an STX myself and it drives them fine on the medium (64~300ohm) gain setting

nicknack35 · 27 Sep 2017 at 21:33

What the HD650's like for House music if anybody is into that sort of thing

PapaLazaru · 27 Sep 2017 at 21:53

nicknack35 said:
What the HD650's like for House music if anybody is into that sort of thing

I find them pretty much perfect for all genres. You might find the bass a little light depending on what you are used to, but compare them to the Fidelio X2's, which are definitely more bass heavy and when I purchased I thought they would be good for dance music (I listen to a lot of old rave / D&B music), the bass sounded flabby to me.

Bought some, then sold, then bought some more thinking I was missing something and then sold again.

These are bang on and they will go low depending on your source.

The only others which I have owned which sounded nearly as good and maybe had a bit more bass hump were the AKG K712's. But sold them as well.

The only headphone out there tempting me is the Beyerdynamic Amiron, but at £500 I need to wait for a deal.

nicknack35 · 28 Sep 2017 at 01:38

[QUOTE="(I listen to a lot of old rave /[/QUOTE] Me to i like Oldskool House. The Bass doesn't need to be heavy just controlled and tight

nicknack35 · 28 Sep 2017 at 01:40

PapaLazaru said:
I find them pretty much perfect for all genres. You might find the bass a little light depending on what you are used to, but compare them to the Fidelio X2's, which are definitely more bass heavy and when I purchased I thought they would be good for dance music (I listen to a lot of old rave / D&B music), the bass sounded flabby to me.

Bought some, then sold, then bought some more thinking I was missing something and then sold again.

These are bang on and they will go low depending on your source.

The only others which I have owned which sounded nearly as good and maybe had a bit more bass hump were the AKG K712's. But sold them as well.

The only headphone out there tempting me is the Beyerdynamic Amiron, but at £500 I need to wait for a deal.

I listen to a lot of oldskool house to. The bass doesn't need to be heavy just controlled and tight but i guess that would depend on the Headphone amp your using to

rids57 · 28 Sep 2017 at 02:51

If you want fast, tight well controlled bass the HiFiMan HE400i would be a better call - the HD650 has a mid bass hump and then rolls off quite quickly, so no real sub-bass, whereas the HE400i is much flatter through the bass region and doesn't roll off until way down in the sub-bass region and being a planar magnetic headphone, the bass response is simply faster than you can get from a dynamic.

nicknack35 · 29 Sep 2017 at 16:35

rids57 said:
If you want fast, tight well controlled bass the HiFiMan HE400i would be a better call - the HD650 has a mid bass hump and then rolls off quite quickly, so no real sub-bass, whereas the HE400i is much flatter through the bass region and doesn't roll off until way down in the sub-bass region and being a planar magnetic headphone, the bass response is simply faster than you can get from a dynamic.

Thanks Rids ill take a look at them i do mainly listen to house music and some Deep house but Mainly 90's oldskool so bass is a must doesn't need to be heavy but nice. My RS165's to my suprise are quite good for house music which i was suprised for the mediocre price of £149. But its time to step up really and just use the RS165's for Movies and just wondering around the house and garden

nicknack35 · 29 Sep 2017 at 17:52

rids57 said:
If you want fast, tight well controlled bass the HiFiMan HE400i would be a better call - the HD650 has a mid bass hump and then rolls off quite quickly, so no real sub-bass, whereas the HE400i is much flatter through the bass region and doesn't roll off until way down in the sub-bass region and being a planar magnetic headphone, the bass response is simply faster than you can get from a dynamic.

Would the Schiit Magni 3 be an ok Amp for the HiFiMan HE400i Rids

rids57 · 29 Sep 2017 at 18:35

The Schiit Magni 3 is a very good amp for pretty much any headphone you can throw at it except maybe the HE6, which really requires a speaker amp (because it's mental)

Sc00p007 · 10 Oct 2017 at 17:30

Looks like the HD660S is coming soon. A couple of hands on opinions saying they have improved the sub bass

An improved 650? Can't wait to hear!

rids57 · 10 Oct 2017 at 19:32

They will no doubt hike the price accordingly - the HD650 will be a tough act for Sennheiser to follow

dt97583 · 12 Oct 2017 at 15:08

Sc00p007 said:
Looks like the HD660S is coming soon. A couple of hands on opinions saying they have improved the sub bass An improved 650? Can't wait to hear!

Official page is up:

http://en-uk.sennheiser.com/headphones-audiophile-high-end-hd-660-s

PapaLazaru · 12 Oct 2017 at 20:51

So much want.

nicknack35 · 12 Oct 2017 at 20:57

Well seen a Review that was a owner of the 650 and said they was not a lot of difference. It be intresting to see more reviews when these get shipped out. The price is not really that bad but if the difference is minimal then its a big price to pay over the 650

rids57 · 12 Oct 2017 at 21:15

Not sure it would be worth getting if you have the HD650 and I am never going to sell mine - Just have to sit back and read the reviews and opinions on Head-Fi.

Maybe some time in the future

BananaDunka · 13 Oct 2017 at 16:08

650 (6XX) is back on the Drop: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-sennheiser-hd6xx?irgwc=1&clickid=wdQ3s4U:Kz2cX1xzIWRab0RVUkm3Dr11VwZMzc0&utm_term=252901&utm_content=Skimbit Ltd.&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=impactradius

The 660 looks nice, but near enough exactly the same spec as the 650, even the same freq response. The only obvious difference is the 650 is 300ohm, the 660S is 150ohm. The 660s would therefore be easier to drive louder with lower powered sources, so maybe this is where the claims of better sub-bass comes from?

I wouldn't even consider "upgrading" if I already owned the 650 or 6XX Mass Drop edition.

Now if the 660S came with memory foam earpads however...

nicknack35 · 13 Oct 2017 at 16:15

mrk said:
650 (6XX) is back on the Drop: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-sennheiser-hd6xx?irgwc=1&clickid=wdQ3s4U:Kz2cX1xzIWRab0RVUkm3Dr11VwZMzc0&utm_term=252901&utm_content=Skimbit Ltd.&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=impactradius

Bought not turning me nose away at that was going to get the Shure 1540. But can't sniff that bargain away.Whats 6xx mean plz lol

rids57 · 13 Oct 2017 at 17:54

The 6XX is just Massdrop's custom coloured HD650, no other difference