Ford GT Mk2

It looks good in some images, less so in others. I have seen one and spent a while going around it and felt mixed about it. It's a big car and I felt it has more body than it needed, but that's a subjective. I see PH has just compared one to a 991 GT3 RS, so will have a read. I think your point about the engine is right, the V6 to me seems not suited to such a supercar, for me it needs more cylinders, certainly 8 or more but then that's old fashioned thinking I suppose.

I'll have a read of the PH article and see if they think I am talking bum gravy :)

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-driven/the-long-read-ford-gt-meets-911-gt3-rs/36890

it looks ugly to me.....clumsy and crude in its design, Mclaren know how to do it right but Ford dont !
 
It might not be slow but with a v8 tt and more power it would be naturally faster :p

It actually wouldn't. It's a racing car and competes in a class that uses Balance of Performance to ensure a degree of equality between the different cars. The 911 is still NA (and mid engined!), the Ferrari 488 has a twin turbo v8 and the Ford a twin turbo v6. Yet it was the Ford that won Le Mans.
 
For cars like the NSX, where the batteries are for added performance rather than the main source of power yea. But in regular EVs (like the i3 etc) they are very top heavy.

Opposite way round.

A carbon fibre 'lifecell' on a battery skateboard is top heavy ?!

PS. where is the actual FAQ now for sig sizes?!!
 
I thought the P1 didn't have regenerative braking? It tops the battery up using the engine whenever the engine isn't under full power demand

Thats is regenerative braking, engine braking just x10. .... you didnt think the actual brakes made the energy?
 
Thats is regenerative braking, engine braking just x10. .... you didnt think the actual brakes made the energy?
My understanding was it wasn't even during braking, literally just whenever the engine wasn't at 100% demand, it was trickling excess back to the battery. As in, the engine charged the battery rather than the electric motor being utilised as a generator during deceleration.

Edit - from Evo, from a comparison article...

Unlike the Ferrari, the McLaren doesn’t use regenerative braking to recharge the battery pack – it’s fed either from the motor supplying charge in part-load or by plugging it into the mains.
 
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You do realise that when you brake the batteries charge up right ?
not to the point where it makes them last a decent amount longer.

Given that it's the hybrid drive system which helps the car achieve these ludicrous performance stats, it quite objectively is not pointless, nor massively compromised. As Simon said, it's like you think that the car drains it's battery, then switches to the petrol engine and just drags the motors/battery around. It doesn't - the car uses the electric motor to supplement the torque requirements where the petrol engine is lacking, and energy can be recycled through regenerative braking to charge the batteries again.

But I guess further debate with someone who describes the P1/LaF/918, arguably the pinnacle of road going performance technology, as "pieces of ****" is ultimately pointless. You don't like hybrids, fine, but your hyperbole is unwarranted.
yes i am aware that it uses both and that it recharges 0.00001% when you brake but the batteries dont last anywhere near as long as the tank of fuel in the car you you dont have maximum power for the full duration of your drive. also i like my hyperboles.

I thought the P1 didn't have regenerative braking? It tops the battery up using the engine whenever the engine isn't under full power demand
if that is correct this proves my points as to why it cant even do 1 lap of a long road or track without loosing power. its compromised. i bet adding the system that recharged it under braking added too much weight :p
 
Just watched the video of Chris Harris driving the Ford GT, one of the shots which made me laugh is the engine, It says Ecoboost.

Yes just what I want to see on my $400k supercar...Eco
 
I think the simple answer to is this car amazing, park it up, watch a crowd generate, there is your answer.

Every time I've seen this car in the flesh, the crowds it draws in is simply mind boggling. At Silverstone it was trying to drive between the big parking areas but it could not because people were crowding around it to get photos, its just such a gorgeous yet outrageous looking car, there is not any angle I dislike, looks stunning from every angle.

Yeah can moan about the engine, but it truly is a hyper car, race car, super car whatever you want to call it. Its a car very few individuals in the world will ever see, let alone own one.
 
Thanks to Ford and Multimatic for building them.

I think it's an awesome thing and sounds like a car we should all be lucky to ever drive.
 
I think the fact that Ford are able to spank most supercars with half the cylinder count is testament to the level of engineering that's gone in to the GT. As for the Ecoboost thing, this is marketing 101.
 
Well it handles like it's top heavy, really poor.

But BMW also claim it's nearly as fast as an M3 in a straight line, which we know is BS :p


Actually ......

At The UK launch of the BMW i3 a few years ago, I was lucky enough to go along to Brands Hatch with a group of journalists.

In an unexpected twist, BMW had also lined up professional drivers in a pair of V8-powered M3s, the idea being that we’d drag-race them from a standing start to 60mph, the classic Sweeney stylee traffic-light test, to highlight BMW's claim that the i3 is nearly as fast as a M3 in a straight line.

Apart from the wonderful theater and noise of the M3 V8, which howls so, so, gloriously, we weer all surprised that the i3 initially stayed ahead of the M3 in every single drag race because of its mountain of instantly available torque, delivered with no gear changes and that matched with a low kerb weight, makes it a true super-car baiter in the 0-40mph stakes.

The M3, initially bogged down by its higher weight and inertia, settles into its stride and eventually takes the i3, but only once up into the 50-60mph part.

The next day, on a sopping wet track, the i3 gripped better and beat the M3 all the way to the chequered flag every single time.

One of my colleagues disbelieved the results and asked to drive the M3 for himself, having accused the BMW driver of deliberately under-driving the M3, to make the i3 look better.

He lost to!!!!!


So yes in ultimate top speed then of course the M3 will thrash the i3 every time, but in normal daily driving around town and cites, the home of the i3, then the i3 will have the M3 in virtually 9 out of 10 traffic light GP's, so in real world driving the i3 is indeed, in a straight line, faster than the M3, so no it's not BS.
 
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