Today's mass shooting in the US

chroniclard said:
Guns and the constitution have too much of a stranglehold on the US public. Its gone too far, there is no solution other than a total gun ban.
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There's no solution at all. America just will not stand up and respond to their gun crime epidemic. Until people get utterly fed up and start moving out of gun friendly cities and the economy takes a nose dive anyway.
 
Have none of you been to America or been around Americans? Banning guns is like trying to ban cups of tea in the UK or wine in France, you can't do it, they're not interested, they'd rather die than have their guns taken away, you're literally having a pointless discussion every time this happens.
 
As another poster mentioned.

The question of ' what will it take?' for politicians the large swathes of the American public to agree to curb and heavily restrict gun ownership was answered at Sandyhook, and the answer is apparently 'more than dead children'.

Its political suicide to be heavy handed on the subject in the US and even the Democrats are aware of this.

Seriously.....what will it take for the public to make the link between the 2nd Amendment and the school shooting that we hear about all too often?

It sickening to think that a number of parents got the call a few hours ago to identify their child at the local morgue.........horrible.
 
Rifte said:
Seriously.....what will it take for the public to make the link between the 2nd Amendment and the school shooting that we hear about all too often?
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There isn't anything that can happen that will make people want to ban guns, especially mass shootings, that makes people want more guns to protect themselves. I'd have a gun if I lived in America as well, you'd be mad not to.
 
Roar87 said:
I'd have a gun if I lived in America as well, you'd be mad not to.
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I dont think I would for a couple of reasons :

1)I would be too concerned about my children getting access to it
2)The practicality and the necessity of it. Unless I carry one around with me all the time, in most cases I would be unable to defend myself from as assailant.

I have a number of Brit friends (US citizens as well)who have been living out in the US for a number of years now who have not exercised their right to bear arms. They are based in California, would they feel any differently if it was Chicago?
 
Roar87 said:
There isn't anything that can happen that will make people want to ban guns, especially mass shootings, that makes people want more guns to protect themselves. I'd have a gun if I lived in America as well, you'd be mad not to.
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Why would you be mad not to? The vast majority of gun deaths and injuries are suicide, accidental shootings by family members and gang v's gang violence the average American has no need of a firearm for defence purposes!

The mood is slowly changing in the states more and more people particularly the young are in favour of gun control and that doesn't mean an outright ban, controls on sale of firearms and storage of them would make a big difference as a starting point if daddy stored his AR-14 in a locked cabinet and kept the key safe little jhonny wouldn't be able to borrow it to go on a killing spree. It is important to remember the kids doing the shooting are generally not hicks ville redknecks but the kids of middle class democrats. Alongside this America needs to try and understand what is making kids do this and intervene in a positive way with improved access to mental health care for vulnerable youngsters no kid is born evil.
 
I see that Donnie Two Scoops Cheetos In Charge can't even be bothered to address the nation. He must be gutted the shooter was American and white.

Make America Great Again indeed :/
 
until they are prepared to do something about it, nothing will change

its not even a shock anymore..and the more they become used to it, theres even less chance of it changing

kids will eventually be taught in buildings resembling prisons..they will say, how can we make schools more secure, and not how do we get the guns out of peoples minds and hands .because they try to find any solution which doesnt actually mean trying to do something about the actual guns
 
[FnG]magnolia said:
I see that Donnie Two Scoops Cheetos In Charge can't even be bothered to address the nation. He must be gutted the shooter was American and white.

Make America Great Again indeed :/
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But it's an everyday occurence in America. Why would the Prime Minister need to address the nation if we had a spot of bad weather? That's the difference. Mass shootings are PART AND PARCEL of American life. The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of the innocent and all that jazz.
 
Craterloads said:
Shooters profile pic

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Appears you two would have been buds.

MAGA
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It seems like he was an ISIS supporting registered Democrat, but nice try though
 
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a1ex2001 said:
Why would you be mad not to? The vast majority of gun deaths and injuries are suicide, accidental shootings by family members and gang v's gang violence the average American has no need of a firearm for defence purposes!

The mood is slowly changing in the states more and more people particularly the young are in favour of gun control and that doesn't mean an outright ban, controls on sale of firearms and storage of them would make a big difference as a starting point if daddy stored his AR-14 in a locked cabinet and kept the key safe little jhonny wouldn't be able to borrow it to go on a killing spree. It is important to remember the kids doing the shooting are generally not hicks ville redknecks but the kids of middle class democrats. Alongside this America needs to try and understand what is making kids do this and intervene in a positive way with improved access to mental health care for vulnerable youngsters no kid is born evil.
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I mentioned this earlier. Kids aren't born evil, it's abundantly obvious that over the months and years that these people are slipping out of society and nobody pays a blind bit of notice. It could be one of many reasons. A broken home, an abusive parent, bullying at school, abandonment issues, influence of drugs. Anything really. But the problem is that nobody looks, nobody cares, nobody thinks about nipping it in the bud and bringing these people back into the fold before they go too far.

We like our system of winners and losers, especially if we believe we are winning. It's just an inconvenience that these losers go on the occasional rampage
 
I was going to say that once we start seeing groups of U.S. politicians being shot, or children of these politicians, then some form of gun control will might be introduced, but then I realised this is America we're talking about.

Maybe they should reintroduce Kinder Eggs so all the children choke to death, that way there won't be any targets left to shoot in the schools. Obviously this doesn't address the problem of other mass shootings, but at least they get to keep their guns - can't have those selfish, inconvenient dead children taking away the right to own those precious guns...
 
Freakbro said:
Well, which is it? :p

or do we have the difference between calendar year and academic year going on?
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  • Shooting is 18th in a US school this year so far
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...g-reports-parkland-high-school-shooting1/amp/

The deadly gun rampage at a Florida high school on Wednesday took to 18 the number of school shootings across the United States so far this year

St Johns, January 3
A 31-year-old man died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound at East Olive Elementary School in Michigan.

Seattle, January 4
A gunshot was fired at the New Start High School in Washington state. The bullet entered an office window. No one was hurt.

Sierra Vista, January 10
A teen was found dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound in a bathroom at Coronado Elementary School in Arizona.

San Bernardino, January 10
At least one shot was fired, shattering a California State University classroom window. There were no injuries.

Denison, January 10
A bullet was accidentally fired through a classroom wall at the Grayson College Criminal Justice Centre in Texas. No one was hurt.

Marshall, January 15
A bullet went through a residential hall’s dorm room at the Wiley College Campus in Texas. No injuries were reported.

Winston-Salem, January 20
A state university football player was shot and killed at an event at Wake Forest University.

Italy, January 22
A teenage girl was wounded at Italy High school in Texas after a 16-year-old suspect opened fire with a semi-automatic handgun.

Gentilly, January 22
A shooting outside The NET Charter High School in Louisiana injured a 14-year-old boy.

Benton, January 23
Two people were killed and another 15 were shot at Marshall County High School in Kansas.

Mobile, January 25
Student Jonah Neal fired a gun on campus at Murphy High School in Alabama. No one was injured.

Dearborn, January 26
Shots were fired from a car in Dearborn High School's car park in Michigan. No injuries were reported.

Philadelphia, January 31
Gunshots erupted as a fight broke out outside of Lincoln High School. A 32-year-old man was shot twice and later pronounced dead.

Los Angeles, February 1
An accidental shooting injured five children at the Salvador B. Castro Middle School.

Oxon Hill, February 5
A teen was shot outside of Oxon Hill High School in Maryland. The victim survived.

Maplewood, February 5
A third-grader pulled the trigger on an officer's gun, firing a shot at the Harmony Learning Centre in Minnesota. No one was hurt.

New York, February 8
A teenager was taken into custody after a shot was fired inside Metropolitan High School. No one was hurt.

Parkland, February 14
A 19-year-old gunman returned to a Florida high school where he had once been expelled for disciplinary reasons and opened fire with an assault-style rifle, killing 17 people before he was arrested by police.
 
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