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Definitely! You knew some good **** was about to go down when that intro came on! Followed by Murrays dulcet tones
https://www.mercedesamgf1.com/en/mercedes-amg-f1/purepitwall/
Only just found this. I will have this on my laptop during the next race.
Only just found this. I will have this on my laptop during the next race.
Lovely to see Billy Monger get a podium on his British F3 debut. Hopefully he gets the sponsorship for a full season.
A modified Porsche 919 'Evo' just broke Lewis Hamilton's lap record around Spa (set last year), by almost a second too. Pretty impressive 
https://www.motorsport.com/wec/news/porsche-lmp1-breaks-hamilton-spa-f1-record-1024214/
https://www.motorsport.com/wec/news/porsche-lmp1-breaks-hamilton-spa-f1-record-1024214/
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A modified Porsche 919 'Evo' just broke Lewis Hamilton's lap record around Spa (set last year), by almost a second too. Pretty impressive
https://www.motorsport.com/wec/news/porsche-lmp1-breaks-hamilton-spa-f1-record-1024214/
While impressive, if you gave the Mercedes a similarly free reign on regulations I'd bet it would sail off into the distance too.
You've got to wonder why... improving by 12 seconds by bending regulations to beat an F1 car which sticks to regulations? What an odd project by Porsche.
Oh yeah that's for sure, but it's still going faster round Spa with a much less powerful PU. Spa is a very much a power circuit.
They added more powerful aero and unrestricted fuel flow but it still resembles an LMP1 car.
F1 also gets far more sticky rubber for a Quali lap.
It's Porsche's swan song to retire the car and doing stuff like this gets people talking, marketing exercise.
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I'm not sure where you get the idea it's a much less powerful engine, it's not. The standard Porche for LMP1 had a 500bhp ICE output driving the rear axle and 400bhp from the mgu-k driving the front axle. It's a 900bhp car as standard, well actually they themselves described it as an over 900bhp combined engine and hybrid system combined, they removed the fuel flow limit and had 720bhp from the ice and 440bhp from the mgu-k including a 8MJ battery.
The Porche engine is significantly more powerful than an F1 engine, it's got a minimum of 10% more raw power but at no time had to save fuel.
If you uncorked the F1 engine just by changing fuel flow you'd also increase engine power, probably by a similar 40% or so and yes that would be more powerful.
They added two DRS systems to reduce drag and the all wheel drive almost certain ensures less wheel spin and more ability to lay down power on corner exit. It actually says that is just among the improvements they made because essentially this car follows no regulations at all, so they may have made it substantially lighter also.
EDIT:- was typing when the above video was posted, as said, it's being described as a 1200bhp beast, it's substantially more powerful than an F1 car and an F1 car following all regulations is only a tiny fraction slower.
The Porche engine is significantly more powerful than an F1 engine, it's got a minimum of 10% more raw power but at no time had to save fuel.
If you uncorked the F1 engine just by changing fuel flow you'd also increase engine power, probably by a similar 40% or so and yes that would be more powerful.
They added two DRS systems to reduce drag and the all wheel drive almost certain ensures less wheel spin and more ability to lay down power on corner exit. It actually says that is just among the improvements they made because essentially this car follows no regulations at all, so they may have made it substantially lighter also.
EDIT:- was typing when the above video was posted, as said, it's being described as a 1200bhp beast, it's substantially more powerful than an F1 car and an F1 car following all regulations is only a tiny fraction slower.
They will have had ultra sticky specialist tyres for this lap too.
With all the other changes there is no way on earth they would have stuck standard rubber on it.
My mistake, I read the motorsport article and they didn't mention the MGU-K power, I only saw the ICE numbers:
Hopefully this gets confirmed later, would be good to know.
Edit: I read this has been confirmed, special tyres from Michelin.
Also Porsche are aiming to go faster still by a few seconds, they have a few more days at Spa.
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