Threadripper on Zen+ 32 Cores - Launching Q3 2018

[Freddie1980]

Intel seems to be burning themselves, a few tech savvy people saw the 28 core setups and realised 5GHz on all cores as shown in the demo is actually just the chip overclocked, so they removed all their demo systems: https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/8ozp99/intel_has_swiftly_removed_their_28_core_cpu_demo/

That deserves it's own thread. What a bunch of Muppets!

Heavy overclocking is a bit of an understatement. They used a water chiller capable of removing 1000W of heat, and of course by the laws of physics that chiller draws that much power. That's on top of the estimated 1200W the CPU itself consumes. I think that would trip the breakers in your house if you live in North America. You couldn't even power the system on.

This is basically as impractical as liquid nitrogen. It's an extreme overclocking stunt Intel pulled off pretending it was a real product.

EDIT: Got the chiller wattage wrong. 1000 instead of 1700. All the info is here for people who missed the article posted on the sub. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-28-core-processor-5ghz-motherboard,37213.html

 

[Kelt]

It seems Intel might be a slightly dodgy company...

 

[humbug]

You know what i find really interesting, AMD didn't have the 32 core Threadripper or the Spire Ripper air cooler there, only the 24 core CPU which they demoed against Intel's 18 core 7980XE.

To me this is AMD reacting to Intel's 28 core stunt, this is AMD saying "you know what Intel, #### you we can play that game too, only better, 32 cores and a box cooler to make the point about our power efficiency, stitch that!!!!!!"

 

[AETAaAS]

At least AMD has a credible pathway there. We already know they can deliver a 32 core chip at 180W TDP with EPYC. A bit more time for refinement, toss in a bit more energy and you can crank the frequency.

 

[bakes0310]

Would I be mad if I was considering a threadripper build over a ryzen that's purely for gaming and web browsing?

I know the answer already but it just looks so exciting and ryzen as well. I just like the idea of a super computer in my house.

 

[humbug]

Would I be mad if I was considering a threadripper build over a ryzen that's purely for gaming and web browsing?

I know the answer already but it just looks so exciting and ryzen as well. I just like the idea of a super computer in my house.

Yes you would, DO IT!!!!

 

[doodah]

Absolutely, but you would have a 32" e-peen - the ladies will fall over themselves with that much parallel power.

I know different divisions and products but why are AMD doing so well on power efficiency with CPUs but terribly on GPUs ?

 

[Armageus]

Would I be mad if I was considering a threadripper build over a ryzen that's purely for gaming and web browsing?

I know the answer already but it just looks so exciting and ryzen as well. I just like the idea of a super computer in my house.

You could always mine cryptocoins on it, if you haven't got a real use for it

 

[jigger]

Drop in upgrade for current boards.

 

[StarShock]

You could always mine cryptocoins on it, if you haven't got a real use for it

or set up some VMs and run a little lan party all off one cpu

 

[Gerard]

Seems the amd setup won't require cooling pipes connected to something else sneaking in the back of the pc..

 

[jigger]

You could always mine cryptocoins on it, if you haven't got a real use for it

At the same time as running a few VM's, compiling Linux and rendering a video. You could probably run a few instance of the game too.

 

[jigger]

Any news on clock speeds?

 

[Orcvader]

Any news on clock speeds?

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12906/amd-reveals-threadripper-2-up-to-32-cores-250w-x399-refresh

Base 3GHz, Turbo not finalised but it's 3.4GHz for now. I suspect they'll try raise the turbo to something near 4GHz to match whatever Intel has.



That's a big cooler

 

[jigger]

If Intel release these 28 core chips they will now have to explain themselves, and for what? to cannibalise existing $10,000 CPU's for AMD to hold the performance crown anyway?

These Intel 28 core HEDT CPU's will never see the light of day. this whole thing was to try and steal AMD's thunder, and it backfired.

Yeah the 18 core is barley a desktop CPU at stock.

X299 officially redundant?

 

[LePhuronn]

I know different divisions and products but why are AMD doing so well on power efficiency with CPUs but terribly on GPUs ?

Because, by all accounts, AMD put every Vega GPU out for sale regardless of if it was any good or not. So rather than being a bit more discerning with the quality, they just smashed ALL TEH VOLTZ at the reference cards to ensure everything worked. There are plenty of examples of users properly dialling in Vega 56 (not so much Vega 64) and saving a ton of power whilst still getting performance gains.

 

[jigger]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12906/amd-reveals-threadripper-2-up-to-32-cores-250w-x399-refresh

Base 3GHz, Turbo not finalised but it's 3.4GHz for now. I suspect they'll try raise the turbo to something near 4GHz to match whatever Intel has.



That's a big cooler

No kidding.

A game of guess the price?

 

[EsaT]

I know different divisions and products but why are AMD doing so well on power efficiency with CPUs but terribly on GPUs ?

Because Zen is majorly revamped architecture from their previous CPUs.
While GPU side hasn't had true major architectural change in many many years.

With CPU side struggling for so long time and people still buying even power hogging Nvidia Fermis when AMD had better GPU R&D money has certainly been on "tight leash" for GPU department.

 

[Gerard]

Hardocp front page

And on the forum

Nothing to see here, totally regular system.

 

[Freddie1980]

At least AMD has a credible pathway there. We already know they can deliver a 32 core chip at 180W TDP with EPYC. A bit more time for refinement, toss in a bit more energy and you can crank the frequency.

From what I read on Anandtech the TDP of T2 32 core will be up around the 250 watt mark, to get to to 180 watts they would probably have to drop the frequency to around 2.2 Ghz with a boost of around 3 Ghz meaning which would hurt it's viability as a monster HEDT CPU (a low clock frequency would make it useless for running games). 250 watts isn't a problem though, remember AMD have already given us the FX-9590 which was 220 watts+.

Also remember AMD's software allows you to setup your CCX's depending on your workload, so if you want to play a game your not going to need 32 cores so can setup your CPU to disable say 3 of the CCX's and run it like a regular Ryzen 2700 with clocks at 4Ghz+ and when you want to do some heavy duty rendering or HPC work turn those CCX's back on (core frequency goes back down core count goes up) and you have a mini super computer at your disposal.