I'm not getting into this.
I've seen the data sheets for both fuels.
They are identical until you add the additive packages at the tankers.
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I've seen the data sheets for both fuels.
They are identical until you add the additive packages at the tankers.
Some people won't be told. They should take a trip to the refinery and see all the tankers filling up at the same point.
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I'm still waiting for my invite to the Tesco specific refinery........
Petrol all comes over in the same huge tankers, from the same refineries. They don't have special ones just for v-power
Anything added is done after. All fuel has to meet the same standards.
Yes they do. Shell V-Power is exclusively blended at the Stanlow refinery.
Having to meet a minimum standard doesn't stop it from exceeding it though. Super only has to have an octane rating of 97 V-Power is 99 and uses a completely different base stock to other supers.
Just use a good branded 95. Super market fuel has the minimum additives to meet the EN228 and EN590 specs and it shows in its performance (long term not some power curve amateur testing)
The UK has a national fuel pipeline for obvious reasons but the additive are different for the different fuel companies.
No doubt I’ll be told I’m wrong by some internet armchair experts.
The UK has a national fuel pipeline for obvious reasons but the additive are different for the different fuel companies.
No doubt I’ll be told I’m wrong by some internet armchair experts.
Got anything to back this up?
Got anything to refute this?
Yes, the fact there doesn't seem to be anything to back your statement up. Burden of proof.
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FYI, Stanlow hasn’t been owned by Shell since 2011...
The fact that a specific fuel is blended there doesn’t really mean anything. They supply 16% of the UKs fuel so they probably blend a lot of the higher grade stuff en masse there... and “blending” could literally just mean adding additives packages.
The fact that a specific fuel is blended there doesn’t really mean anything. They supply 16% of the UKs fuel so they probably blend a lot of the higher grade stuff en masse there... and “blending” could literally just mean adding additives packages.
Shell V power used to have a dedicated base fuel. Not sure now/ nor if they have started to use ethanol.
BP ultimate is 102 Ron in Germany as their ultimate is a dedicated base fuel for that product. Shame there isn’t the same refinery infrastructure here in the UK.
BP ultimate is 102 Ron in Germany as their ultimate is a dedicated base fuel for that product. Shame there isn’t the same refinery infrastructure here in the UK.
In your opinion, under what circumstances is it worth paying the extra for Shell V-Power over their regular unleaded?
Genuine question since you clearly know a lot about it, not arguing or trolling
I've always used V-Power since getting my Mondeo as I understood it was 'the right thing to do' with it being turbocharged, direct injection, etc. But if I'm really wasting my money then maybe I won't bother.
I could go and dig out the fuel data sheets. But ATM, I'm feeding my newborn
Your doing the right thing. Giving it 99ron fuel. But you can do that with momentum..In your opinion, under what circumstances is it worth paying the extra for Shell V-Power over their regular unleaded?
Genuine question since you clearly know a lot about it, not arguing or trolling
I've always used V-Power since getting my Mondeo as I understood it was 'the right thing to do' with it being turbocharged, direct injection, etc. But if I'm really wasting my money then maybe I won't bother.
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However, and this could be the way I'm interpreting the post @Simon but supermarket fuels are using the minimum additives required to meet specs while Shell/BP (Ignoring the octane difference) are using additives beyond what is the minimum required
Momentum also uses further additives over the standard unleaded. They just don't sing, dance and spread moss information about it.
In your opinion, under what circumstances is it worth paying the extra for Shell V-Power over their regular unleaded?
Genuine question since you clearly know a lot about it, not arguing or trolling
I've always used V-Power since getting my Mondeo as I understood it was 'the right thing to do' with it being turbocharged, direct injection, etc. But if I'm really wasting my money then maybe I won't bother.
Most turbos DON'T need high RON unless they have been re-tuned for it specifically. It's high compression NA engines that usually want it.
It will be fine with regular shell tbh
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some interesting comments on additives here ... whether to use v-power or add some Red Line SI-1 from time to time, although, can you effectively mix an additive ?
https://products.basf.com/en/Keropur.html
https://products.basf.com/en/Keropur.html
Turbo cars are timing limited at peak torque (generally peak boost). Higher octane allows more torque for the same boost, so actually, turbos really do want high octane. The Ethanol content of M99 was always useful as well as it helps cool the combustion.