QLED vs OLED
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That’s not how it works though, just because certain elements of a product aren’t covered under warranty doesn’t mean they must develop that issue.
We aren’t saying it isn’t an issue either, it does happen, just the likelihood of it happening is fairly small outside of fairly extreme usage or before you come to replace it anyway.
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New wall brackets start from £40. If your potentially gonna spend £3k+ on an OLED, the wall bracket price is neither here nor there.
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Ordered 55" AF9 for the kitchen with JL price match at £2249
Its a pain the backside to fit a wall bracket in my house. Hence the reason why I don't to go through the hassle and mess taking down the current one to replace it with another.
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Is your house made of glass or mud?
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Oh and here is proof that burn in is an issue still
Albeit it looks like they have improved a lot
https://www.avforums.com/threads/po...urn-in-note-your-vote-will-be-public.2197134/
Albeit it looks like they have improved a lot
https://www.avforums.com/threads/po...urn-in-note-your-vote-will-be-public.2197134/
Gosh knows!
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Putting a bracket up is literally 4 screws into a wall. So I don't see why it's hard
True but not all houses are built the same, mine was built in the 1910 so you can't just put up wall brackets around my house expecting it to hold. My current bracket has 8 heavy duty bolts.
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why don't you attach something to the wall then attach the bracket to that? like a wooden board? it's going to be hidden by the tv/bracket anyway
I don't think anyone has denied that it is still an issue, however, with proper/normal usage, it "shouldn't" be an issue. Be interesting to see the ones who have burn in, I'm betting their usage is something silly like 80% OLED light setting with 6+ hours of sky/cnn news every day........
If anything, that poll show it is very rare to happen on the 2017+ sets.....
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Saw a Samsung q9fn 75 up close the other day.
Think that one of them or a successor model will be my next TV purchase.
Are the blacks as good as the best oleds? No but damn close and a much more rounded TV then a lot of oleds with fewer longevity concerns.
Think that one of them or a successor model will be my next TV purchase.
Are the blacks as good as the best oleds? No but damn close and a much more rounded TV then a lot of oleds with fewer longevity concerns.
you're right - philips site itself https://www.philips.co.uk/c-m-so/tv/p/oled-tv/plus is more direction of value added by p5 processor/bw sound/ambilight /google assistant
RE: oled from an engineering perspective - a picture says a 1000 words
the LG c8 sub-pixel re-design +40% red, is not disguisable, manufacturers don't over-design products.
C8 customer spec is little different to c7, so they have 40% more red light to 'play' with
- why do they need that ? this is a reliability/liefspan refinement - tell us why LG ... lets see how the C9 panel evolves.
(similarly wrt non over design -
in the domain of cars, recent bmw post on how identical size pistons+cyclinder-liners manufactured 'differently' for different target engine powers , to save millions of euros on the less powerful models )
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Discussion has gone beyond oled/qled ... no one purchased a sony zf9 then ? what's superior about these
To be fair, that poll does qualify itself that the 2017/18 models have by definition not been around as long, so any burn in issues that will turn up later in the lifespan of the panel won't have had time to show up... yet.
True that.
Still, even the 2016 models aren't bad and once again, chances are, more than likely the ones who have burn in have been reckless with their sets.
As for the bigger red sub-pixel, yes, it has been done in order to not only reduce likely hood of burn in but also help lengthen the life time, same was done with the 2017 sets iirc. Props to LG for doing this.
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which is why i chose the XF90. i don't want to have to baby the screen and be forced to vary my content, use screen cleaning every morning and night. then also use pixel orbiter, etc.
when you shift the pixels around it's really distracting. i have the tech on my plasma and i turned it off.
I haven't done any of that, I have left pixel shift etc. turned on and not noticed it at all.
Someone should be able to watch the news channels for a couple of hours without worrying about burn in. Technology is supposed to go forwards, not backwards.
Or maybe to take any burn in problems to outside the warranty period? We've seen plenty of companies do this not as a way of solving a problem, but as a way of reducing their exposure to expensive product failures and recalls. Caveat emptor and all that, as we've already seen manufacturers try to put burn in problems at the feet of the customer, rather than faulty products.
Same for me. I love the PQ of OLED, but I'm not willing to deal with any burn in issues under any circumstances. Even if I am willing to baby a TV, it'll be my wife who pauses a TV show "for a minute" while she pops into the kitchen and does fifteen minutes of cooking. Then I'll have to have a big row about her lack of mechanical sympathy, and deal with an expensive, ruined TV, which I'm not willing to do. Make the technology work and be robust for what it's going to be used for, then maybe I'll spend a couple of grand on it.
It's quite an interesting statement that. I wonder what the dragons would say if you took an OLED into the studio and it was the first time anyone had seen one? They'd probably tell you to get out and stop wasting their time with impractical tech
