Hacker group releases '9/11 Papers', says future leaks will 'burn down' US deep state

Trusty said:
That such wealth exists, im certain that the House of Saud are worth several trillion...
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Well firstly that isn't an individual but rather several thousand individuals. Apparently those several thousand together might well have a net worth of 1.4 trillion... not several trillion though AFAIK.

Who has several trillion and how do you know this?
 
Minusorange said:
No it raises more questions of why if it fell to one side did the whole tower come down and not just the bit that was compromised and above ?

Like I say I don't claim to be an engineer I'm just asking questions that don't make sense to me due to a lack of knowledge

I don't see what the problem is, surely it's good that one requests further knowledge instead of just saying x is y and sticking to that without actually trying to learn ?

Certainly nowhere have I said it's a conspiracy just that some things don't make sense
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Jesus...

Because the building wasn't cleanly bisected! There was impact damage to one side only hence the inclination of the structure above the impact site to fall to that side however mavity still acts straight downwards so the majority of the collapsing structure still fell on to the floors below.
Buildings are designed primarily so as to support a static load however dynamic loads are still taken in to consideration (generally wind loadings). The dynamic forces imparted by the collapsing floors above exceeded the design loads of the floors below hence the collapse.
The same object when moving imparts significantly greater loads than it does when static.

Jenga is actually a pretty good thing to use to get an approximation.
 
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Minusorange said:
No it raises more questions of why if it fell to one side did the whole tower come down and not just the bit that was compromised and above ?

Like I say I don't claim to be an engineer I'm just asking questions that don't make sense to me due to a lack of knowledge

I don't see what the problem is, surely it's good that one requests further knowledge instead of just saying x is y and sticking to that without actually trying to learn ?

Certainly nowhere have I said it's a conspiracy just that some things don't make sense
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Why not have a read though this site then, it should clear up most of the common questions:

http://www.debunking911.com/towers.htm
 
dowie said:
Well firstly that isn't an individual but rather several thousand individuals. Apparently those several thousand together might well have a net worth of 1.4 trillion... not several trillion though AFAIK.

Who has several trillion and how do you know this?
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Why does it matter if it's just one guy from the House of Saud or the whole lot of them? Do you think such centralised undocumented wealth is healthy for the world? You dont believe people collude i take it?

Youre a naive nut!
 
Trusty said:
Why does it matter if it's just one guy from the House of Saud or the whole lot of them?

Do you think such centralised undocumented wealth is healthy for the world?

Youre a naive nut!
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What exactly am I being naive about - you're the one who posted the CT video and is now deflecting with some argument that because several thousand members of the House of Saudi are worth a bit over a trillion dollars combined then it is somehow plausible that some individual as claimed in the video actually has several trillion.

Is this a numeracy issue?

I didn't make any claims about vast wealth in the hand of individuals being healthy or unhealthy for the world and I don't see what relevance that has to me highlighting that your video is nonsense. Try to stick with what I've actually said and we can perhaps avoid going off on too much of a tangent.

Do you have anything to actually back up the claims made in the video you posted?

Just highlighting that some wealthy people exist (albeit a a fraction of the wealth claimed in the video) isn't exactly a great start. I think we can both accept that billionaires exist, I'm not aware of any trillionaire existing yet, let alone someone with several trillion.
 
You keep saying its conspiracy theory, but i'm one providing more evidence that to prove that stuff like this goes down.

Do you even remember how this conversation started? go read page 2 again.
 
Trusty said:
You keep saying its conspiracy theory, but i'm one providing more evidence that to prove that stuff like this goes down.

Do you even remember how this conversation started? go read page 2 again.
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What evidence? You've provided a video which has been proven to be a prank.
 
Trusty said:
You keep saying its conspiracy theory, but i'm one providing more evidence that to prove that stuff like this goes down.

Do you even remember how this conversation started, go read page 2 again.
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What evidence?

Just to be clear - I'm aware that billionaires exist and that rich people sometimes store money overseas - highlighting that doesn't lend any credibility to what you posted. I'd suspect that most people are aware billionaires exist and sometimes wealth is stored overseas.

Yes what you posted was a conspiracy - a gullible member of the House of Lords who fell for a previous prank re: "foundation X" fell for another prank re: some supposed multi trillionaire.

You've so far posted nothing to support it...
 
Trusty said:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/nov/03/strange-case-lord-james-foundation-x

can you provide some articles about this? i cant find many
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Well you've got one there that is essentially it, he's a nutter with previous form for this - that is the incident where he was duped two years before the incident on the video you posted.

if you want the video of it then seemingly a youtube channel called "vaccine truth" (an appropriate name :D) has the footage:

5:16 onwards:

 
What does that Guardian article say?
Why cant you provide me with any articles about it?

You keep saying he's a nutter, which i find hilarious...

Remember though, im just a CT nut.
 
Trusty said:
What does that Guardian article say?
Why cant you provide me with any articles about it?

Remember though, im just a CT nut.
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You posted an article about it yourself - I've just provided you with the video of the speech. What do you actually want here?
 
What?
Read the convo again

It should be pretty obvious what im asking of you. Youre stuck though, and you know it. Hence, acting dumb suddenly.
 
Trusty said:
What?
Read the convo again
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You've edited the post to include a question "I'll ask again, what does the Guardian article say?"

You've got a link to the article that you posted yourself - why not read it?

I don't particularly want to clog up the thread with this - it seems clear you have nothing to back up the claims made in the CT nut video you posted previously, are you trying to deflect or something? You've now got video of the previous time this nutter came out with some ridiculous claim in the House of Lords.

edit - ref your edit:

Trusty said:
It should be pretty obvious what im asking of you. Youre stuck though, and you know it. Hence, acting dumb suddenly.
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It isn't clear at all what you're after here.
 
dowie said:
You've edited the post to include a question "I'll ask again, what does the Guardian article say?"

You've got a link to the article that you posted yourself - why not read it?

I don't particularly want to clog up the thread with this - it seems clear you have nothing to back up the claims made in the CT nut video you posted previously, are you trying to deflect or something? You've now got video of the previous time this nutter came out with some ridiculous claim in the House of Lords.
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lets just leave it. We'll just go round in circles..
 
Well it doesn't need to go around in circles, if you were able to back up the silliness in the video you posted then it would only take a post or two of discussion. Instead you've needlessly spent time demonstrating that billionaires exist/that rich people sometimes keep money overseas and you've made some unclear requests about the previous time this guy was duped. None of which actually supports the CT nonsense posted previously.
 
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