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I am guessing once the drivers and possibly bios for the card are sorted out then would be the time to really judge it.
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Radeon VII a win or fail?
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Drivers are likely problematic because Radeon VII probably wasn't in any longer term plans.
Nvidia pumping up consumer's but... err prices instead of giving proper bang per buck upgrade just left some market slot for selling expensive to make computing card also for consumers.
Isn’t PhysX basically dead now?
Even G-Sync is kinda a hard sell now they support Frees.... I mean A-sync. Top end Freesync monitors are on a pretty level playing field as Gsync, just without the premium.
Jury still out on RTX. The fact it’s still a bit of a “benchmark tech” tells me it will take a few generations to really be worth talking about.
Not sure if any of the Nvidia Gimmicks are really worth taking into consideration right now (were they ever?), the differences worth talking about VRAM, noise and heat.
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That's it. Give it a good 6 months and I wouldn't be surprised to see a very good card that has pushed Infront of the 2080.
Should imagine it'll be a very interesting card with aftermarket coolers or an aio.
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For me its a win, I cant complain at all, its not as noisy as reviews kept saying, in a few months time when drivers and people owning them get to grips with the card, it will be like vega64 improving with every driver.
but when I see cards like the Rtx 2080ti commanding £1500 and more its PC gaming gone mad. for the games I play at 1440 its perfect and I am looking forward to any improvements that come along with new drivers
and overclocking software that works 100% and lets not forget its more than a gaming card.
but when I see cards like the Rtx 2080ti commanding £1500 and more its PC gaming gone mad. for the games I play at 1440 its perfect and I am looking forward to any improvements that come along with new drivers
and overclocking software that works 100% and lets not forget its more than a gaming card.
The card is more future proofed than the 2080 due to the higher amount of VRAM and AMD's better track record of improving older cards over time.
Also AMD consumer cards work with vt-d unlike consumer nvidia cards, and the future in computing is virtualisation in my opinion.
Also AMD consumer cards work with vt-d unlike consumer nvidia cards, and the future in computing is virtualisation in my opinion.
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I'm not sure how much this "fine wine" pipedream will turn out in reality.
VII is not a new architecture is it? It's basically a highly clocked Vega 64 on 7mm. How much is really going to be in the tank?
VII is not a new architecture is it? It's basically a highly clocked Vega 64 on 7mm. How much is really going to be in the tank?
I wouldn't guess much, unless the 7nm process somehow has a bit to give in terms of performance through drivers? Though im doubting it.
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It does have better FP64 performance that Vega 64 but I don't know what that means for gaming. Very little by the benchmarks it would seem.
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AMD are still optimising VEGA last drive seen a 5% boost for Assassins Creed.
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Games need to be coded to support it. FarCry 5 and Resi 2 both using it. Am sure Division 2 and Devil May Cry 5 will also.
The fine wine theory is one of my pet hates, really. This was used in faith for fiji,but the 4gb limit of hbm was always going to hold it back.
VII has an advantage with 16gb this time, it will rely on future game engines and if they are tailored around the restrictive front end of Vega/Polaris/VII then we will see a little longevity,
The fine wine thing has only really been about the cards getting decent bumps over time. With fiji they made a big deal about "hand tuning" drivers to let datasets fit within the 4gb buffer.
I personally always found it a bit irritating that you have to wait months to see the cards best performance after the reviews all all long gone and everyone has an impression based off them.
to be fair Vega prices were murdered by its mining performance. Mine paid for itself in 3months...
As you say it's more in effect of releasing potential performance, that was held back due to scheduling inefficencies. Hence hawaii had such a long reign. I agree too with the frustration of launch review performance vs the later refined drivers. It's just I get a little cranky when Amd fans try and spin this as a pro situation,
If we get them, of course.
I've seen some reports claiming a "Red Devil" SKU is already in the making, and other reports claiming AMD isnt opening the part up for 3rd party designs.
I would like to see what Sapphire can do after slapping on a Nitro+ cooler, given the chance, as they have always get the best out of AMD with superb quality cards IMO.