Labour frontbencher Diane Abbott "coloured".

[Dis86]

Ohhhh crap guys. We need to stop calling people Irish or Children!

 

[hominid]

I grew up in the 70's and it wasn't a derogatory term back then, sure you could use it as so but if people were talking civilly, as Rudd was, then their was no problem with what she said. Saying that, with todays virtue signalling hyper sensitive times/types when offense is taken just to take the moral high-ground.

Others were right, Rudd should have said the thickest MP, by a country mile(Corbyns bit of fluff), then everyone would have known who she was talking about.

 

[Deleted member 66701]

Other than as a facile excuse to be gratuitously offensive about someone, does this thread have any purpose?

Yes - it gives LabR@t the chance to vent his alt-right faux rage - if he doesn't do it at least three times a week his head will explode in a shower of gammon.

 

[slipperydave]

I bet most of the people offended by it are white.

from what i've seen on Twitter, that seems to be quite true.

Coloured hasn't been unaccepted for decades.

did you type that right? it's not a word i'd call my missus, who's black.

There as been no big incidents were someone called someone else coloured and a mini riot broke out. The only people ive seen offended is other white people who whisper "oh you shouldnt call them coloured these days...".

i suppose you call someone that's mixed-race "half-caste"?

 

[IronWarrior]

However, I had no idea "Coloured" was considered so offensive.

Same, I always thought "Coloured" was the polite word to call people black, I always felt black was worst.

I guess it's okay to call people "white" still.

Diane Abbott is an hypocrite, she has used anti-white racism before.

 

[Dis86]

did you type that right? it's not a word i'd call my missus, who's black.

I bet she's not black.

 

[slipperydave]

I bet she's not black.

you're right. i'm just virtue-signalling and not contributing to the debate at all.

 

[stockhausen]

Yes - it gives LabR@t the chance to vent his alt-right faux rage - if he doesn't do it at least three times a week his head will explode in a shower of gammon.

Would that be a bad thing?

 

[Lord-Jaffa]

I like how the context it was used in was completely disregarded, i.e. she was actually using it to high light the abuse Diane Abbott receives on Twitter, yet Diane then stabs her in the back for it like the moronic coward she is.

She gets abuse on twitter because she is an utter spanner.

 

[Dis86]

you're right. i'm just virtue-signalling and not contributing to the debate at all.

Lol. No no, I have no doubt she's real! What I mean is that black as a term for describing someones race is utter crap. She isn't black. In the same way I (and I'm guessing you) aren't actually white. I'd hazard I'm closer to being white than she is to black by a fair margin though!

My argument would be that coloured is probably a more accurate term. The reason some see it as being offensive is because it was the term in use at a time when prevailing attitudes were wrong. I'd posit that if the term black had been in use in the 40s, 50s etc. then black would be seen as the offensive term.

What needed (and thankfully has) to change was the attitude. Not the terminology. Calling someone black doesn't mean you're not a racist. Calling someone coloured doesn't mean you are.

 

[Fubsy]

The world is now literally a big game of offence bingo.

Thing is, there's no winners because there's no ****ing prize.

 

[DaleTheWhale]

I thought the offensive part was sticking up for Diane.

Imagine bringing attention to the fact that black people suffer worse abuse than other MP's and then being called a racist. Where has common sense gone?

 

[slipperydave]

Lol. No no, I have no doubt she's real! What I mean is that black as a term for describing someones race is utter crap. She isn't black. In the same way I (and I'm guessing you) aren't actually white. I'd hazard I'm closer to being white than she is to black by a fair margin though!

My argument would be that coloured is probably a more accurate term. The reason some see it as being offensive is because it was the term in use at a time when prevailing attitudes were wrong. I'd posit that if the term black had been in use in the 40s, 50s etc. then black would be seen as the offensive term.

What needed (and thankfully has) to change was the attitude. Not the terminology. Calling someone black doesn't mean you're not a racist. Calling someone coloured doesn't mean you are.

She would describe herself as blue-black. You'd have to actually talk to some PoCs to understand that. But calling someone "coloured" is just a bit outdated. I don't find it offensive because I'm pink-ish.

I do get your point though.

 

[NVP]

She used the term coloured in a descriptive manner and most importantly WITHOUT MALICE, so why this is an issue I don't understand.

Do people actually think a nearly 60 year old woman in politics has the same exposure and interaction with other cultures as today's youth? We've grown up with it and know what is classed as "proper", the fact she is inexperienced does not make her a racist. And so what if it is telling that she has no black people in her social circles, I have no Japanese people in my circles am I now not to be trusted to do my job?

 

[explicit4u]

I thought the offensive part was sticking up for Diane.

Imagine bringing attention to the fact that black people suffer worse abuse than other MP's and then being called a racist. Where has common sense gone?

It's still there if you bother to look, majority of the responses i've seen have not called her a racist, they've simply pointed out that it's outdated and offensive.

How comes white and black are the only accepted terms for skin colour? You can’t call a Chinese man yellow or an Indian a brown man.

Calling south asians brown is pretty acceptable depending on the context.

Could you explain why black is an acceptable term?

Because black people tend to identify with the word. It's simply the difference between a group defining itself, vs a term used against them.

 

[Dis86]

Because black people tend to identify with the word. It's simply the difference between a group defining itself, vs a term used against them.

Then could you explain the word that shall not be spoken? Black people frequently identify with that word yet anyone else uses it and BAM! Offensive.

Also worth pointing out that historically I believe they referred to themselves as coloured.

 

[Irish_Tom]

I have no Japanese people in my circles am I now not to be trusted to do my job?

No, but equally, you probably know not to call them Nips.

Anyone who says “I didn’t know ‘coloured’ had offensive connotations” must live under a rock.

AR has apologised, let’s see if DA is big enough to accept her apology or doubles-down on the whole charade.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1103665146600263681

 

[Roar87]

She gets abuse on twitter because she is an utter spanner.

Yeah she actually has a staggeringly low IQ, it's incredible how much she's achieved with such a profound intellectual disability actually.

 

[Dis86]

@Irish_Tom

Reporting your name - it was used on an offensive poster in the past. Check yourself.

 

[Caracus2k]

'Person of colour' is just 'coloured person' paraphrased.

The observation that collective ideologies often become obsessed by the minutae and semantics of language usage is nothing new. .

Orwell satirised this tendency as far back as the 1940's in his book 1984.

Inogen might to well to remember that 'Tory' was historically an explicitly pejorative term aswell.