20 million PC gamers could defect from PCs to consoles by 2022
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i like these kinds of posts
I would argue a pad isnt an inferior experience at all.... in the case of FPSers it is most certainly a less effective control method, but i would say lounging on the sofa with a pad is more enjoyable than sitting at a desk or trying to use a laptray with your KB/M.
i also think KB/M promotes cheesy unrealistic play which depending on the game is just silly. going to VR shows just how nuts the instant 180 degree turn on the spot then have perfect pinpoint accuracy is. do that in VR and you just feel sick and disorientated... and using your body to turn in VR fpsers rather than a pad or KB/M and you realise it is simply impossible to move like those using KB/M move.
the limitations that a pad force on you actually makes you play slightly more realistically imo. this may or may not matter to you.
Also controls need to be considered from the off, a halo and destiny for instance handle beautifully on a pad because their primary users were always going to be on a pad. HL2 OTOH not so much.
some game OTOH a Mouse just makes more sense, stuff like RTS etc.... personally i would not play them on a sofa however (though that said xcom works well enough but that is turn based not rts)
of course it is all subjective. what is good/important to me is clearly different to others....
Agree 100%
I do use my PC for 4K gaming, but it's through my 65" OLED and me on the sofa with an Xbox one wireless controller in hand.
I'm not sitting at a desk getting wrist-ache.
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are people still pumping thousands into their gaming pcs these days?
I've been out of the hardware game for a couple of years now, but I remember it was getting on close to 2k for a full system build and even then you couldn't max everything out
I've been out of the hardware game for a couple of years now, but I remember it was getting on close to 2k for a full system build and even then you couldn't max everything out
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I prefer my PS4 Pro's cost of 39p a day. By the time I swap it for the PS5, it will be down to around 20p a day.
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Not all gaming. PC will never be better than console for games like FIFA.
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I'd love to say I use my 2080Ti powered PC for more than 4k gaming but I don't really.
A bit of web browsing occasionally, a bit of downloading, a PLEX server and that's about it.
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why?
I have an xbox 1 pad so then it all comes down to the effort put into it. in the past some fifa/pes ports have been really poor, often using older engines... BUT other times they have been decent ports and i would argue play identically to console counter parts BUT allow me to play online for free AND potentially play at higher res or framerate.
also pc versions allow mods. i have not bought a PES game for some time, but the one i do have has fully realistic teams and even have improvements to player textures and commentary
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Mortal Kombat 11 is better on consoles
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In what way? Does the PC version not have controller support?
Agreed. The glory days of PC gaming are long gone and whilst it's far from dead it's not exactly in a healthy state either thanks to the publishers trying to kill gaming with their unbridled greed.
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As soon as console goes native 4k60fps with adaptive sync, it's bye bye gaming pc. Only thing on PC I'll be doing us SIM racing on my SIM rig I reckon.
It will always be somewhat subjective but there are a lot of people for whom controllers will not ever give as good an experience as keyboard and mouse no matter how much time they spent with a controller it would still be an inferior experience for them.
Really though there is no real substitute for how quickly and easily you can do complex UI input with a keyboard and mouse or the freedom of having mouselook - it is like someone claiming that if you spend long enough adapting typing on a tiny touchscreen keyboard on a phone can be as enjoyable as using a full size physical keyboard.
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Except Sony could pay them mega dollars to release it as a Sony console exclusive as well
(As in there would be the PC version and PS5 version)
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from what digitalfoundry said (I think it was them) it suffers from huge framedrops. No doubt a driver (shudder) or patch would sort.
i like these kinds of posts
I would argue a pad isnt an inferior experience at all.... in the case of FPSers it is most certainly a less effective control method, but i would say lounging on the sofa with a pad is more enjoyable than sitting at a desk or trying to use a laptray with your KB/M.
i also think KB/M promotes cheesy unrealistic play which depending on the game is just silly. going to VR shows just how nuts the instant 180 degree turn on the spot then have perfect pinpoint accuracy is. do that in VR and you just feel sick and disorientated... and using your body to turn in VR fpsers rather than a pad or KB/M and you realise it is simply impossible to move like those using KB/M move.
the limitations that a pad force on you actually makes you play slightly more realistically imo. this may or may not matter to you.
Also controls need to be considered from the off, a halo and destiny for instance handle beautifully on a pad because their primary users were always going to be on a pad. HL2 OTOH not so much.
some game OTOH a Mouse just makes more sense, stuff like RTS etc.... personally i would not play them on a sofa however (though that said xcom works well enough but that is turn based not rts)
of course it is all subjective. what is good/important to me is clearly different to others....
Thing is though what translates ingame to feeling natural/realistic versus realistic often doesn't workout like you'd think - the limitations of realworld looking around when used ingame actually feel a lot more limiting than experiencing the same thing in real life - it is one of the reasons a full on head simulation (bobbing with movement) is largely just stupid although a small number of people need a small amount of it so as to not feel like they are a camera sliding on ice.
Mouse free look actually gives you a responsiveness that is a close equivalent of how seamlessly we move in real life VR is a bit of a different story versus non-VR gaming. Same reason why full on hardcore sim games for first person tend to die off very quickly as most people feel like they are playing with their legs strapped together and their arms in some kind of frame compared to the level of control you'd have in real life and just don't find it a good experience.
I used to say that same when I had an Amiga A500 and then an A1200. The PC will never be as good as the Amiga for games! But a few years later I bought a PC to play Doom and sold the Amiga
Based on what? Tempted to get this one day.