Technically the TDP is important because it'll have a lower sustained boost even if it has a similar maximum boost. Unless of course BIOSs have the option to ignore TDP limits, in which case the only real difference is slight binning at 100 MHz.
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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***
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Soldato
I've never been more confused as to what to do. Maybe at 1440p I should just hold onto my 4690k for a while yet.
You're going to be over a grand for a top end cou and mobo from AMD. before you even look at ram or the rest of the system.
You're going to be over a grand for a top end cou and mobo from AMD. before you even look at ram or the rest of the system.
Caporegime
The unnecessary bolted on hardware on these X570 motherboards, like a Ford Focus after its owner has spent the afternoon at Halfords, is annoying me a bit.
As nice as they look, I don't care about showing off my mobo to nerds at LAN parties, so I hope there are some functional cheaper boards that aren't adorned with all this bolt-on tat.
As nice as they look, I don't care about showing off my mobo to nerds at LAN parties, so I hope there are some functional cheaper boards that aren't adorned with all this bolt-on tat.
Soldato
No one has a gun to your head
To be fair it did read an awful lot like you were planning to flip your 2700X and it did read an awful lot like you then said that you were going to do no such thing.
Yes...but now he’s getting a 3900x lol
Soldato
3900x upgrading to that....ninja clamber out of hole...
Hardly, having already gone through a 1700 and 2700x..................why on earth would i want another 8c/16t cpu ? Reality is, i only see the 3900x as a stop gap before the 16c/32t parts anyway and the quicker they come the better.
Soldato
Good luck with that. Tat is cheap, as is RGB LEDs. It's a mainstay now. I expect there'll be a modding scene from de-tatting motherboards
Caporegime
Cheap to construct but it's all part of trying to upsell and increase margins. Remove the tat and stop trying to sell boards at prices that imply the tat is anything but tat.Good luck with that. Tat is cheap, as is RGB LEDs. It's a mainstay now. I expect there'll be a modding scene from de-tatting motherboards
X570 prices are in danger of harming Zen 2 sales if they're not sensible.
Wait for prices to drop, unless money isn't an object.
Unfortunately there are enough people who will buy at literally any price that price drops might take years.
He reported the Master to come in at around 350 and will have everything people will need. Still a lot, but far better value for money. Buildzoid was actually impressed with it (in other words, he said it wasn't ass), which in normal speak means it is pretty good
ASUS' new memory hardware sounds extremely interesting. From what I've seen so far it seems like ASUS and Gigabyte are looking good. ASUS tax is a scary thought though if the top Gigabyte board is pushing $600.
Last generation there were a couple of MSI boards that had great hardware without being flashy and overpriced. Not sure about other manufacturers.
Caporegime
I'm considering that now, maybe with just a Navi or 2070Ti upgrade to replace my 970.
I have a 4K screen but it's 40" so I can happily run it at 1440p UW 1:1.
Sure is difficult having two "premium" vendors in this market, and nothing else.He reported the Master to come in at around 350 and will have everything people will need. Still a lot, but far better value for money. Buildzoid was actually impressed with it (in other words, he said it wasn't ass), which in normal speak means it is pretty good
ASUS' new memory hardware sounds extremely interesting. From what I've seen so far it seems like ASUS and Gigabyte are looking good. ASUS tax is a scary thought though if the top Gigabyte board is pushing $600.
AMD = "We're premium now, please."
Intel = "Always been premium."
All the motherboard makers = "We're can be premium too! Look at these prices!"
Everybody else in the distribution chain, "Did I hear premium? Dis gun be good!"
Yeah, this new market reality is that everything is premium. In other words, you best give up your golf membership or (for the chavs) sell a kidney, if you want a new "premium" gaming PC. Which is any new gaming PC. Any of them.
Hell if you just want an nVidia GPU and can't (yet) afford a PC to put it in you're still looking at remortgaging your house...
your on a old i5 anything is going to be a upgrade over what you have. £100 on ram £100 mobo 2700 at £160. big upgrade for not much.
Soldato
oh i'd agree - running a pc and keeping it 'updated' is a costly hobby but as enthusiasts we already know that (or at least should)I think pretty much all of us will spend more between console generations than the cost of a next gen console. Regardless of which console gen you look at. Add up all the GPU and CPU and mobo and RAM upgrades since PS4 was released, I dare yaEsp if you bought an nVidia GPU recently (ho ho ho).
PC upgrades aren't cheap; they don't really make economical sense vs consoles from a gaming perspective.
The reason to keep upgrading your PC is to have either a) one "all purpose" device; b) upgrade more frequently (if you have an uncontrollable itch); c) maximum power for unlimited spend or d) you're addicted to MMOs
For everyone else - and because everyone else already has a PC of some sort - consoles genuinely are the better value for money proposition (except if you don't play games!).
if someone is looking at it purely on a cost case then a 150 quid office pc off the shelf and a ps(whatever number) or xbox(even less idea of name) is the more sensible choice if a user wants to game but still have a bit of 'productivity'
but we're for the most part pc enthusiasts so ain't got no time for sensible arguments!
sauce?
Soldato
Is it though? Big upgrade? in gaming? at 1440p on a GTX1080?
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