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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

Discussion in 'CPUs' started by Jamin280672, Jul 20, 2018.

  1. Ross Thomson

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    price of the 3900x doesn't look bad compared to what the threadripper 12 core parts where at launch.

    3900x $499 3.8-4.6
    2920x $649 3.5-4.3
    1920x $799 3.5-4.0


    I paid £265 for my 1700 7 months after launch (£329)
     
  2. d_brennen

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    Even if demand is stellar I don't think it'll impact Ryzen numbers much. From the rumor mill, yields are good. This feels like holding back for business reasons
     
  3. Praz94

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    Disappointing to see that the Ryzen 5 is still stuck at 6c when I think almost everyone thought it was going to be a 8c, with Ryzen 7 moving to 12c and Ryzen 9 moving to 16c
     
  4. wakadoo

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    when will the motherboard prices/details be published.
     
  5. Fire_fly

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    There is a bios already on the Asus website for "next gen processors", they recommend updating your chipset drivers first.
     
  6. KungFuSpaghetti

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    50% increase in what though? Benchmarking?
    I want gaming performance from these gaming chips, there's no chance they are 50% stronger there.

    Basically it seems that AMD have the performance there and can undercut Intel by a huge margin, but have **** the bed. The 12 core should be priced as the 2700x was on launch, because Intel can trade on name sake, AMD can't.
     
  7. Martini1991

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    Wonder when we will get solidified support from the motherboard vendors about what CPU's they will support
     
  8. Zeed

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    NEWSFLASH its been back from start of Zen..... I usually run 104bclk atm
     
  9. 4K8KW10

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    They are holding a second 12-core option back, as well, why not a 3900 at 65W with lower clocks?
     
  10. twistedheat

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    Nearly every person I've spoken to/seen in a similar boat to me (on Reddit, IRL, etc) see these Ryzens as the first real worthwhile cost effective upgrade.

    I'm on a 4670k. Intel have been overpriced for years, and previous Ryzen's OC for OC were just on par with my Haswell in single core performance. No upgrade truly made "Durr it's so obvious" sense. Until now.

    I can almost guarantee that anyone that was stuck on Haswell or below is chomping at the bits to pick up a Ryzen 3000 series chip.
     
  11. N19h7m4r3

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    Likely keeping the best binned for Epyc, and Threadripper later. Then again the voltages for the 16 demo were silly at like 1.5V. So clearly some ES, just to demo.
     
  12. Stephanie Peterson

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    16 core in 3 months i bet, just when they need a bit of press coverage.
    As for a second 12 core, yeah could see that more than not.
     
  13. FoxEye

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    Pricing is still anything but certain don't forget.

    We know the RRP but we don't know what retailers will be selling them for... could be £50 on top of RRP, even after the straight $ to £ conversion that's likely almost certain.
     
  14. KungFuSpaghetti

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    Yeah for anyone on an aging platform it's great, but for me it's a minor let down.

    Basically another 8 core with similar gaming performance to 9900k? Will it actually be as quickas a clocked Intel?
     
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  15. twistedheat

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    That's a fair point, being £50 on top of a 1:1 $:£ conversion would certainly take the shine off of things, but if it stays at or close to 1:1 $:£ then I think they'll fly off the shelves.
     
  16. FredFlint

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    Wow, 40 PCI-e gen 4 lanes across the range, Intel would of chopped lanes for the low end, Intel sucks ass! Looking forward to replacing my 5930K .
     
  17. 4K8KW10

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    What are you going to use the lanes for? You need two graphics cards in Crossfire and 3 NVMe PCIe 3.0 x4 SSDs.
     
  18. Minstadave

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    Shame no 16 core on release. I may wait a while and see how it pans out.

    Is there no info on Threadripper 2?
     
  19. FredFlint

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    I need fast storage for my work, I need a minimum of two fast drives, more drives speed testing up lots. This is why I got X99. I was thinking I would need to go with Thread Ripper this time but it looks like a X570 will do.
     
  20. pmc25

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    Who on earth thought that? Ryzen 3 is low budget. Ryzen 5 is low cost, high value. 7 is premium. 9 is now high end. How could that work with Ryzen 5 being 8 core? Also, why would they do it? They'd hit their margins, and it's completely unnecessary as Intel have nothing to respond with until H2 2020, by which time Zen 3 will be out.

    IMO, AMD would be best off not launching the 16 core at all, and saving all the better dies for EPYC and TR4. Intel don't have a reply to the 12 core, let alone the 16 core. Move AM4 to 16 core top end on Zen 3, when hopefully power reductions on EUV will make it a more friendly product for the enthusiast socket (as opposed to HEDT TR4).