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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

Perfect_Chaos said:
We need a price/performance list somehow.. I'd like to see which RAM offers the best performance and when it's pointless to spend more.
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Track down some of the very reasonably priced Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3000MHz 15-16-16 modules if you are looking at 16GB, these are for the most part Micron E-Die IC's which are going well past the rated speed with tight timings. Currently about £70-75 for a 2x8Gb kit. :)
 
Journey said:
Track down some of the very reasonably priced Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3000MHz 15-16-16 modules if you are looking at 16GB, these are for the most part Micron E-Die IC's which are going well past the rated speed with tight timings. Currently about £70-75 for a 2x8Gb kit. :)
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Suppose we going to have to wait to see what difference if much or any it makes going to 3600mhz and 4000mhz, big increase in cost.

Any recommendation for a 32gb kit?
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
Suppose we going to have to wait to see what difference if much or any it makes going to 3600mhz and 4000mhz, big increase in cost.

Any recommendation for a 32gb kit?
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The kit I mentioned (BLS2K8G4D30AESBK) will go to around 3600MHz, and some have pushed them well past 4000MHz. Your original query seemed to be about price/performance and it's not a straight line on a graph, there will always be a massive value increase going with a kit that can be overclocked well vs. paying over the odds for a pre-tested 4000MHz kit will show little value if you have to spend double or more to end up with the same result. 32GB kits are an unknown for me, on anything other than TR4, sorry. :)
 
I recently bought some G-Skill 3600mhz C16 to replace my G-Skill Ripjaw V 3400 C15's as the 3400 set wouldnt run past 3200 on my 1700 and even then were a bit flakey, the 3600 set dropped straight in and i was able to use Stilt fast preset and havent had an issue at all. Will sell the 3400 C15 set of Ripjaws and keep the 3600 set for Zen2 as it sound like i'll be able to run them at their rated and and maybe OC them a bit too!
 
Clov!s said:
https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-3000-zen-2-cpu-5-ghz-overclock-4-5-ghz-all-core-boost/
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That has to be one of the worst articles I have seen yet.
talk about a confused list of "possibilities", they even state it is just a round-up from Reddit

The new details are rounded up over at Reddit so let’s take a look at them before heading into details.


4.8GHz is achievable on all cores
~4.4GHz performs similar to a 5Ghz 9900k – in Cinebench
5.0GHz is doable, but it’s a challenge
Overclock for overclocking, Ryzen 3000 is still faster
5GHz boost isn’t infeasible
5Ghz all core is pretty much a no-go.
1.35V for all core 4.5Ghz
Memory is being run very loose and slow to assure the stability for testing
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Improvements to memory overclock are going to be 90% down to IMC improvement in the CPU, right?
Rather than the board signalling and bios setting, though they do still play a part.

So I'd expect higher clocking ram on older boards with the new CPUs.
 
pandem0nium said:
Improvements to memory overclock are going to be 90% down to IMC improvement in the CPU, right?
Rather than the board signalling and bios setting, though they do still play a part.

So I'd expect higher clocking ram on older boards with the new CPUs.
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There's talk of a divider/ratio for the MEMCLK and IF this time round.
 
Grim5 said:
The gigabyte x570 extreme doesn't use a fan for the PCH - it's entirely passive cooled

https://www.anandtech.com/show/1443...hip-x570-aorus-xtreme-16-phase-for-ryzen-3000

Again proving why the Gigabyte extreme is the best x570 yet
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Bit if it's going to have an absurd cost and the usual BIOS issues that seem to come with Gigabyte, it might have other issues of its own. Gigabyte also seems to have a rep for downgrading the components on subsequent versions of the same motherboard, though I don't know if this is just anecdotal or there's proof out there, much like TV/monitor companies that change panels after the first batch and good reviews come in.
 
pandem0nium said:
Improvements to memory overclock are going to be 90% down to IMC improvement in the CPU, right?
Rather than the board signalling and bios setting, though they do still play a part.

So I'd expect higher clocking ram on older boards with the new CPUs.
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The imc and the quality of ram. My FlareX 3200 Cl14 can oc to 3466 MHz on both B350 and X470 with a R7 2700. Even 3533 Cl14 on X470 was possible. Never tried on the B350.
 
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