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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

Having a 2700x feels great as its the top cpu and a radeon 7 as well, being the top gpu they do... but £750 to be that again ...... theres no possible way to justify that.

Seperately, massive lol when they showing the streaming capability of the two cpus
 
ChrisD. said:
I'd say very likely. They follow the RPYC lineup and there will be a 64c/128t EPYC CPU. That said, I'm not sure who in would want 64 cores in a desktop?
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X499, with Threadripper 3xxx will not go past 48 cores. Afaik, 16/24/32/40/48 are going to be the options, with the entry level 16-core and 24-core CPU being significant due to the frequency on offer in the power design of TR4, obviously if Intel chose to push the Xeon Scaleable over to HEDT like they did with the 28 core then AMD could do 56/64, but I don't think Intel can due to the BGA nature of the product, oh and the fact they already pull 400w+. :)
 
I watched the presentation until the dude showed the hexagon door pattern in Borderlands 3 with AMD whatever it’s called switched on. At that point I thought ‘what a pile of *****’ and went to my bed.
 
At these prices I'll likely still go for an 8 core and given PBO is probably a much better solution than manual overclocking, it'll likely be an R7 3800X. The extra news about gaming performance, the Windows 10 May 2019 update, and the RAM speed data is really interesting. AMD reckons DDR4-3600 CL16 is the one to go for, cue prices of those sticks going up!
 
KentMan said:
That 3800x has to have some decent OC potential in it, or it makes absolutely zero sense to buy, zero. And when you look at the above metric of price per core, it is extremely poor value unless its the one chip that overclocks like an absolute monster. I was set for the 3800x but now im tempted to just go to the 3900x instead.
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Yeah I'm thinking the same thing. 3600X to save cash or 3900X to get better perf - both better value for money.

So what is the 3800X for then?
 
I’m really looking at the 3600, 3600X and 3700X for gaming, which I mainly do on my 240Hz 1080p monitor.
The 3600X looked pretty impressive on those E3 comparisons, but if the 3600 can be overclocked to those speeds that should be great value for money. If the 3700X was a little cheaper at $300 I would be more tempted for 8 cores, I get the feeling it won’t clock as well as the 3800X. Time will tell. Looking forwarding to reviews!
 
Kashinoda said:
A shame they weren't able to get clocks up really.
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Well they have. Previously the maximum boost clock of a mainstream part for Ryzen 2 was 4.35 GHz, now it's 4.7 GHz. Not as high as some would've liked but it's definitely higher.

I honestly think prices would've been lower had Intel actually had a 10nm part ready, but because AMD aren't competing with Ice Lake (or whatever it's called now) they've chosen to bump up price points to make some cash.
 
Bluntwrapped said:
I watched the presentation until the dude showed the hexagon door pattern in Borderlands 3 with AMD whatever it’s called switched on. At that point I thought ‘what a pile of *****’ and went to my bed.
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Same.

The streaming comparison was hysterical. Did the 9900K even stream a frame? Slide says 1.6% of frames successfully streamed. Looked like someone turned the light on and it short-circuited the entire grid lol.

Interesting how the doubled L3 had significantly more impact on improvements than all of the other changes combined (in most games). Makes you wonder how well a 2700X with doubled L3 would do.

I liked the reduced input lag feature of Navi, but the rest of it was a tad bland. Probably soured a bit by the pricing. I was expecting them to show comparisons against a 2080 not a 2070.
 
HEADRAT said:
Oh dear beany_bot, don't buy a lottery ticket this week ;)
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I know. Lol. I was very wrong!
But 750 quid. Ouch. What does the gamer buy now? I have a feeling the 8, 12 and 16 core will all overclock co the same and offering the same gaming performance. The 100mhz increments are just too neat.
 
awaybreaktoday said:
Will get the 12 core in July and then the 16 core 7mn+ next year
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Aye, the 12core is a great sweet spot. Still surprised how well it hit the 9900 in CSGO. Did not expect that.

GTA, and Overwatch still have big gaps between the two, but overall Ryzen 3000 looks great. If they managed to get the clocks up a little more. Seems the IPC really is in line with Intel, and just missing the MHz to put the final nail in.
 
almoststew1990 said:
Can someone briefly summarise the big deal about memory? Old Zens "worked with" up to 3200MHz, I take it the 3xxx series will work with faster Ram?
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Not actually. Many had even their 1800X working at 3600Mhz ram. But needed good ram at rated speeds (3600), not trying to overclock some piece of crap from 2666 range left over from their Intel system.

New 3000 series supports 4000+ it seems. (many motherboards advertising 4666+)
 
Anyone else seen this titbit from PC World?

All of the performance testing you’re seeing today, AMD officials tell us, are done without the updated Windows scheduler in place. AMD also tells us it didn’t install the latest security mitigation for Intel’s chips either.
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Pretty big if true. I bet even with the update the scheduler is worse than the Linux one though. :p

N19h7m4r3 said:
Aye, the 12core is a great sweet spot. Still surprised how well it hit the 9900 in CSGO. Did not expect that.

GTA, and Overwatch still have big gaps between the two, but overall Ryzen 3000 looks great. If they managed to get the clocks up a little more. Seems the IPC really is in line with Intel, and just missing the MHz to put the final nail in.
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Yeah, as someone who pours hours into Overwatch it's rather annoying but then again, even my X58 chip doesn't hold back my GPU in that game so I'm sure it'll be fine. :D
 
Robert896r1 said:
Will keep my 9900k until 7nm+ then it’s all about 16core 5ghz. Way to kick ass AMD. Welcome back!
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Hate to say this but you are over 2 years late, the day they launched the 1800X and Zen architecture they were back. The 9900K you have wouldn't exist if they hadn't ;)
 
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