AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[Nghtmare]

now now don't get dragged into a argument, this is a discussion thread at the end of the day everyone has a choice and if you like intel or amd then go with what you like or afford

I can afford both, matter of fact I have an Intel CPU at the moment.

 

[Eatchipz]

He is celebrating getting his first sample at the start of the video...Well it looks like he won't be getting anymore samples.

 

[wookiee87]

Thank you, Wookiee.

Lot of hate for Intel on here. Intel is better for gaming, and AMD is better for productivity.

I can afford both, matter of fact I have an Intel CPU at the moment.

i have a i9 7900x system at the moment but i'm seriosly concidering the 3900x and a asus crosshair viii formula, got £1600 to burn XD

 

[DarkHorizon472]

Thank you, Wookiee.

Lot of hate for Intel on here. Intel is better for gaming, and AMD is better for productivity.

The sensible choice is work out what you will use it for and choose the best option in your budget. I had a choice between a 7700k and a Ryzen 1700, due to the increased core count / threads and AM4 socket being supported for future CPU generations I chose Ryzen. I am now probably looking at. 3900x but will wait a few months for reviews and actual users experience before deciding.

 

[Nghtmare]

i have a i9 7900x system at the moment but i'm seriosly concidering the 3900x and a asus crosshair viii formula, got £1600 to burn XD

Those 2 things will cost around 1.2k, so it should be more than enough.

 

[wookiee87]

Those 2 things will cost around 1.2k, so it should be more than enough.

fingers crossed as was looking at 4000mhz kit of ram as well XD

 

[StarShock]

Thank you, Wookiee.

Lot of hate for Intel on here. Intel is better for gaming, and AMD is better for productivity.

At the top end of the current stack sure, but at most price points AMD win a lot of scraps. Whole lot of games play better on a 6 core 12 thread 1600 than they do on a 4 core 4 thread 9100

 

[nhornby51743]

fingers crossed as was looking at 4000mhz kit of ram as well XD

You could probably squeeze a 3950x with that budget as well.

 

[chrcoluk]

I wouldn't touch either of them.

Interesting he talks about daisy chain topology.

I had a discussion with him on reddit about a month ago on it so am glad he mentions now in his videos, as on my intel board I cant go above 3000mhz in 4 dimm configuration. According to buildzoid tho daisy chain is much less of a hindrance on ryzen platforms.

 

[robfosters]

Can everyone stop wanting the 3900 please, there’s not enough to go round and I’ve been waiting since they were first announced

 

[nhornby51743]

Rest of his posts were removed I think.
Just seemed to be baiting and general ignorance.

Not general ignorance. There were a few people telling a guy his opinion was wrong, and that their assumptions were somehow fact, lot of pretentious people on here, who think their opinion is Gospel.

 

[Potatowithearsontheside]

The sensible choice is work out what you will use it for and choose the best option in your budget. I had a choice between a 7700k and a Ryzen 1700, due to the increased core count / threads and AM4 socket being supported for future CPU generations I chose Ryzen. I am now probably looking at. 3900x but will wait a few months for reviews and actual users experience before deciding.

I agree.
However, I'd also say that it is even more nuanced than that. If your use case is gaming then your first port of call for affordability is GPU and monitor choice; CPU performance can seem like an irrelevance if you're gaming at high resolution, so you pick the CPU that can do the most other things.

 

[Martini1991]

Looks lik reason for stricted NDA and no pre-orders is due to low stock volumes, quite a few places have alreay completely sold out.

This is a normal launch in terms of NDA/Pre-orders from what I've seen and all the launches I've seen.

 

[Martini1991]

4.3GHZ all core on 3700X.

Even with the IPC advantage over Intel, it's not enough to compensate for the clock speed deficit.

 

[z10m]

At the top end of the current stack sure, but at most price points AMD win a lot of scraps. Whole lot of games play better on a 6 core 12 thread 1600 than they do on a 4 core 4 thread 9100

You should really compare it to Intel's 6 core offering.

 

[Nghtmare]

4.3GHZ all core on 3700X.

Even with the IPC advantage over Intel, it's not enough to compensate for the clock speed deficit.

Are you talking 9900K running stock or all cores 5.0Ghz?

 

[chrcoluk]

Why is the 8700k locked to 4.3ghz lol?

is it the ryzen 2000 reviews all over again where they gimp the K processors? LOL

 

[Deleted User 456458]

i have a i9 7900x system at the moment but i'm seriosly concidering the 3900x and a asus crosshair viii formula, got £1600 to burn XD

The smart option would be to wait for the 3950x as the chips will clearly be binned so you'll have the best PBO performance on that chip.

 

[Captain]

Can everyone stop wanting the 3900 please, there’s not enough to go round and I’ve been waiting since they were first announced

I think the 3600x and 3700x will sell out first, wouldn't have thought many on here need the 12c CPU.

 

[Martini1991]

Are you talking 9900K running stock or all cores 5.0Ghz?

It's hard to say because the video review wasn't that great in terms of comparison numbers.
Pretty sure he said a 4.8GHZ 9900K faster than a 4.3GHZ 3700X. That's absolutely fine considering the price differences, it just depends how the other parts clock.

But I don't think AMD have gained enough clock speed to make up the deficit yet. AMD for the first time in my involvement in hardware have better IPC, but too little clock speed.