AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[Scooter72]

just taken me an hour to read the posts just from today lol

LOTS of opinions and arguments for and against AMD/Intel - surely at a minmum its a draw and decide if you want slighly cheaper and the odd FPS slower or slighly more dosh and pick your favourite benchmark to claim a victory. Its all good for competition and consumers

 

[easyrider]

£379 3800x

£479 3900x

Man that 3900x is some grunt for the money!

Good times , good times indeed !

 

[keyser]

Best summary of em all

X470 no difference in performance, good to know thanks.

 

[Stephanie Peterson]

In two minds what to do. I have my kit here, tomahawk b450, ram etc but thinking, for purely gaming, which is what I was doing this upgrade for..would the 9900k be a better investment?

There is literally hardly anything between the low powered 3700x and the 9900k in gaming, a few %. And to get that few % you have to have much higher power usage, crap security and an old platform.
Quite why people want to go with the 9900k now is beyond me.
If the very last fps is so important then i would wait for the 3800k results, its surely going to be faster than the 3700k.

 

[easyrider]

X470 no difference in performance, good to know thanks.

It’s looking like that for B450 too.

 

[Kashinoda]

For those bending over backwards for decent RAM.

1.9% increase from CL16 3000 to CL14 3200.

Grab some Micron CL15 3000 and you're good to go for much cheaper.


https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-zen-2-memory-performance-scaling-benchmark/5.html

 

[Jokester]

There is literally hardly anything between the low powered 3700x and the 9900k in gaming, a few %. And to get that few % you have to have much higher power usage, crap security and an old platform.
Quite why people want to go with the 9900k now is beyond me.
If the very last fps is so important then i would wait for the 3800k results, its surely going to be faster than the 3700k.

Some people still game at 720p it seems.

 

[opethdisciple]

If you watch this video this guy says to get the most out of the R7 and up chips you need an x570 board.

 

[flea.rider]

Is the ASRock X570 Taichi really that good of a board? People seem to be snapping them up at the lower price elsewhere. Is it just for the extra value, or is it that good?

good value ..
but it's basically a x370 with a few new traces... vrms and most components are mostly same

 

[muon]

£379 3800x

£479 3900x

Man that 3900x is some grunt for the money!

Good times , good times indeed !

I thought you said the 3800X would be £400? I believe you laughed at anyone suggesting a straight conversion.

Easiest prices to predict. My <£370 was a little off as the £ weakened over the last month by 2-3%, but is always around $ price converted + VAT.

In fact I think £379 is actually a couple of pounds below $399 + VAT at today's exchange rates.

 

[ben90]

Is the ASRock X570 Taichi really that good of a board? People seem to be snapping them up at the lower price elsewhere. Is it just for the extra value, or is it that good?

It's definitely a good board as it is, but at the discounted price (if honoured) it is an absolute steal. If it was not for the sale though I wouldn't have bought it as my original plan was to stick with my x370 Taichi.

 

[Kozlicek]

This year I will finally buy new rig - curently on 2500k. Even for gaming I see no reason to go for 9900k. New apps and games will be beter optimised for high core CPUs and AMD chips will get only better also with more optimizations.

My favorite is 3900x (or maybe 3950x as I also run BOINC). It can handle all existing games just fine and will have no problem with new titles. Gap against 9900k in games is not noticeable and will just get smaller in next months.

 

[Aretak]

If you watch this video this guy says to get the most out of the R7 and up chips you need an x570 board.

Depends on what "get the most out of" means really. Sure, if you want PCIe 4.0 for instance. But TechPowerUp's testing showed zero difference between X470 and X570 in a pure CPU performance sense, even with the 3900X.

 

[narta]

Classic AMDelirious.

Btw having an opinion is not trolling. Trolling is a term used by people who don't have the same opinion as you.

You are not trolling. Just busting our balls.

 

[Stephanie Peterson]

Some people still game at 720p it seems.

Hilarious isnt it, buy a 500 quid cpu and run it at 720p

At the resolutions most actually game at why wouldn't you take the much superior AMD platform? especially when there is a fag paper between the chips.

 

[Kashinoda]

If you watch this video this guy says to get the most out of the R7 and up chips you need an x570 board.

He's wrong(ish), there's no difference even with PBO from X470 to X570. Margin of error stuff:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-3900x-3700x-tested-on-x470/4.html

 

[nitram100]

There is literally hardly anything between the low powered 3700x and the 9900k in gaming, a few %. And to get that few % you have to have much higher power usage, crap security and an old platform.
Quite why people want to go with the 9900k now is beyond me.
If the very last fps is so important then i would wait for the 3800k results, its surely going to be faster than the 3700k.

Yeh , i really want to order the 3700x but in some benches the 9900k is 20-30 frames ahead. Think I'm gonna wait for 3800x reviews and see how they go!

 

[Potatowithearsontheside]

Some people still game at 720p it seems.

Every one that owns a 2080Ti games at 720p. Get with the times.

Space Invaders and Pacman: The Resurgence

The next big advance in gaming is a reversion back to the 1980s. I mean, The Goldbergs proved to be a popular TV show.

 

[Jacky60]

I was hoping for more but AMD, Nvidia and Intel are all doing a great job of stopping me spending money.
Any progress is good I guess but no compelling reason to upgrade for at least a year. The 3600 seems the sweet spot in gaming.
I'd be annoyed if I'd bought a 1700 for general use and gaming then/or not then a 2700x and perhaps now a 3700X with a very incremental uptick in game performance.
What's the point in the same platform if pretty much everything else stays the same too? Yes it's better but the gains are small enough to mean
no it's not worth going from any Intel or AMD previous 8 core to 3700X/3900X if gaming is the main concern (Bulldozer excepted).
The 7700K benches vs all Zen2 are what most concerned me.

 

[opethdisciple]

Just to through it in there as a consideration for those opting not to buy x570 if buying new) this decision could come back to bite when the next gen GPU's launch next year.